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Post by KevinC on Sept 16, 2023 10:16:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure in the same article they said that the army lists for all the factions that are not in focus would be free PDFs. Indeed perhaps the starting lists for those factions in focus will also be PDFs (i.e. all known Fantasy factions getting PDFs at the beginning, like 10th Edition 40K), and then when GW give each of those 9 a big release they'll release a full hardback army book for them which will supersede their PDF list. Yes, I believe it will be almost exactly like 10th edition 40K. Every faction gets a free pdf list at the launch of the game. Then army books (and new models) will get released for the nine core factions over the course of the edition. ------I've been under the impression (and I hope I'm wrong) that there will be no army books, but rather a book of army lists....like HH?
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Post by thegoat on Sept 16, 2023 15:19:21 GMT
Yes, I believe it will be almost exactly like 10th edition 40K. Every faction gets a free pdf list at the launch of the game. Then army books (and new models) will get released for the nine core factions over the course of the edition. ------I've been under the impression (and I hope I'm wrong) that there will be no army books, but rather a book of army lists....like HH? They haven't definitely said army books are coming. I'll be surprised if they don't. Even limiting the core factions to nine, GW will need to release a lot of model kits to support WH:TOW (booth old and new). The army book/codex launch hype train cadence is a big part of how they drive sales of all those model kits.
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Post by tileag on Sept 16, 2023 21:03:11 GMT
------I've been under the impression (and I hope I'm wrong) that there will be no army books, but rather a book of army lists....like HH? They haven't definitely said army books are coming. I'll be surprised if they don't. Even limiting the core factions to nine, GW will need to release a lot of model kits to support WH:TOW (booth old and new). The army book/codex launch hype train cadence is a big part of how they drive sales of all those model kits. I'm really crossing my fingers the old empire knight kit and free company kit get some re-releases
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Post by thegoat on Sept 16, 2023 22:16:39 GMT
They haven't definitely said army books are coming. I'll be surprised if they don't. Even limiting the core factions to nine, GW will need to release a lot of model kits to support WH:TOW (booth old and new). The army book/codex launch hype train cadence is a big part of how they drive sales of all those model kits. I'm really crossing my fingers the old empire knight kit and free company kit get some re-releases I 100% guarantee Empire Knights will come back or be replaced with a new kit. The Empire faction can't exist without that kit. Free company though? They could be dropped or they could come back.
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Post by Mallo on Sept 17, 2023 10:07:58 GMT
They haven't definitely said army books are coming. I'll be surprised if they don't. Even limiting the core factions to nine, GW will need to release a lot of model kits to support WH:TOW (booth old and new). The army book/codex launch hype train cadence is a big part of how they drive sales of all those model kits. I'm really crossing my fingers the old empire knight kit and free company kit get some re-releases I know for certain that the old empire knight kit is being brought back. I just spent an obscene fortune on getting the last bits for my white knights, meaning GW will for certain bring the kit back at a responsible price! (and I still wont have gotten around to having painted the unit ) Jokes aside I am surprised we have seen nothing for the empire kits returning, which makes me wonder if that is the one range that is being totally overhauled as it will be the main faction being pushed once it gets going proper.
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Post by Darnok on Sept 19, 2023 6:16:14 GMT
The simple answer for right now is: we do not know.
As mentioned by others, GW has made it clear that everything playable in 8th edition will get rules for TOW. This would include things like the Endtimes releases, but nothing that came later for AoS. GW also stated in no uncertain terms that only those nine "core factions" will get ongoing support in terms of models and rules for the time being. This implies that every faction will get some sort of "index army list", but only those core factions will recieve updates in army or campaign books. This might change at a later time if and when TOW is big enough of a success.
We have no clear quote yet (which I can remember) on whether army lists for the core factions will come in army books as we know them, or in campaign supplements (think "Tamurkhan"). I guess both would make sense, and we just have to wait and see.
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Post by Darnok on Sept 19, 2023 6:42:46 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but I think this one deserves attention of its own.
Found on Dakka², with the source video linked over there, we have some new rumours concerning the initial releases for TOW. The summary given is as follows:
To say I was doubting this would be the understatement of the year. It is a relevant rumour for now though, no matter what I believe. I just hope this one turns out to be the complete nonsense I believe it to be...
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Post by Mallo on Sept 19, 2023 7:59:41 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but I think this one deserves attention of its own. Found on Dakka², with the source video linked over there, we have some new rumours concerning the initial releases for TOW. The summary given is as follows: To say I was doubting this would be the understatement of the year. It is a relevant rumour for now though, no matter what I believe. I just hope this one turns out to be the complete nonsense I believe it to be...
I refuse to give rumour videos more views, but from only viewing that list above I very much doubt this is true. GW is unlikely to give that many models in a single box, not only would it be insanely expensive but thats a big chunk of infantry that they need people to keep on buying. Even at the lowest end of the GW price points, €40 per unit of 20, thats over €200 per set. I know they made the point that this isn't meant to appeal to someone as a 'starter wargame', but that is going to be a steep cost to get people invested. I guess it would be a good way to shift old models that people might otherwise not want to buy (as they already have them). I'd not put it past GW bundling the rules for each army inside a box like this and not making a separate release for 6 months.
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Post by herjan1987 on Sept 19, 2023 12:04:18 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but I think this one deserves attention of its own.
Found on Dakka², with the source video linked over there, we have some new rumours concerning the initial releases for TOW. The summary given is as follows: To say I was doubting this would be the understatement of the year. It is a relevant rumour for now though, no matter what I believe. I just hope this one turns out to be the complete nonsense I believe it to be...
Evetything would be welcomed for me,except the Liche on dragon. A construct monster fine its lore friendly. A dragon not so much.
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Post by karnus on Sept 19, 2023 12:12:55 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but I think this one deserves attention of its own.
Found on Dakka², with the source video linked over there, we have some new rumours concerning the initial releases for TOW. The summary given is as follows: To say I was doubting this would be the understatement of the year. It is a relevant rumour for now though, no matter what I believe. I just hope this one turns out to be the complete nonsense I believe it to be...
This would be very substantial and expensive. I’m more interested in what form the supporting documentation will be available, rulebooks and any tokens/counters/templates required (if any) etc. my fear being they may be locked behind one of these boxes.
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Post by thegoat on Sept 19, 2023 14:29:03 GMT
Evetything would be welcomed for me,except the Liche on dragon. A construct monster fine its lore friendly. A dragon not so much. I assume it would be a zombie dragon.
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Post by karnus on Sept 19, 2023 14:44:39 GMT
Evetything would be welcomed for me,except the Liche on dragon. A construct monster fine its lore friendly. A dragon not so much. I assume it would be a zombie dragon. Of course, I would expect it to be more like a winged zombie sand wyrm or snake to fit in with the aesthetic. A zombie dragon akin to the vampire counts doesn’t really fit for me.
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Post by thegoat on Sept 19, 2023 14:46:32 GMT
I’m more interested in what form the supporting documentation will be available, rulebooks and any tokens/counters/templates required (if any) etc. my fear being they may be locked behind one of these boxes. I assume at launch the (physical) rules, templates, etc. will only be available in some sort of a box set along with models you may or may not want. Who knows how long that restriction will last. One month? Three months?
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Post by thegoat on Sept 19, 2023 14:52:07 GMT
I assume it would be a zombie dragon. Of course, I would expect it to be more like a winged zombie sand wyrm or snake to fit in with the aesthetic. A zombie dragon akin to the vampire counts doesn’t really fit for me. Good point. Maybe a bone dragon then?
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Post by karnus on Sept 19, 2023 14:54:02 GMT
I’m more interested in what form the supporting documentation will be available, rulebooks and any tokens/counters/templates required (if any) etc. my fear being they may be locked behind one of these boxes. I assume at launch the (physical) rules, templates, etc. will only be available in some sort of a box set along with models you may or may not want. Who knows how long that restriction will last. One month? Three months? I’ve got nearly every compatible 8th edition book for WFB (some elude me), I like having physical books and cards. Things you can actually touch and flick through. If I like TOW I want to be able to buy the rulebook and put it on my bookshelf. I don’t really want to have to spend money on a box set that I may or may not be interested in, less so if that book is going to follow in the tradition of 40k and become obsolete in mere months. I remain excited still, I feel like we are months rather than years away from a release so we will see.
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