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Post by larsen on Nov 21, 2021 9:39:31 GMT
Hello!
I'm new to Warhammer but already heavely into Skaven. I'm using Skaven Army Book 8th Edition. In the book it is said:
The Warp Lightning Cannon uses the following profile:
Range - Artillery Dice x 4" Strength - Artillery Dice
Special Rules - Multiple Wounds (D6), Magical Attacks
Roll one Artillery Dice to determine the range
(multiplied by 4) and strength of the shot. Unlike
normal Cannons, the Warp Lightning Cannon strikes
all models in a straight line from its muzzle, and there
is no roll for the bounce. However, it cannot fire
grapeshots.
So, how on earth does the WLC shoot?
1. Do you have to roll artillery dice twice? One for the range and one for the strenght? Or do you roll ONE dice and use this number to determine the range and the strength? The second one makes sense to me (the more is the cannon charged, the further the bolt travels), but it weakens the WLC on the short range.
2. Is the WLC like a rail-gun from Quake? Do you just draw a line from muzzle and count every model under it as a hit? Does it shoot through monsters?
3. If so, it looks like the WLC now has to be in the open, exposed to every charge, -- just so it won't shoot through my troops. Is it the case? |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Nov 21, 2021 10:25:49 GMT
Are you aware that there is no 8th edition Skaven Army Book? The one you are referring to is an unofficial fanmade edition. If you want to play the official rules, you need to use the 7th edition Skaven Army Book, amended by the last Official Update Version (1.7).
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Post by larsen on Nov 21, 2021 11:30:33 GMT
Wow! Thank you so much for the reply. That claryfies a lot.
No, I was not aware. I've read about that there were no upgrades for Skaven from 7th to 8th, but then I found 8th edition pdf online and assumed it is official.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Nov 21, 2021 12:38:13 GMT
You can find the Skaven and all other Official Update Versions here. |
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Post by larsen on Nov 21, 2021 13:20:10 GMT
Thanks a lot! As an off-topic question: do people generally play fanmade 8th edition Skaven or stick to the FAQed 7th? I wanted to be as faithful to official rules as possible but heard other players hate Skaven 7th edition.
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Post by thegoat on Nov 21, 2021 17:50:24 GMT
[My guess] In this forum, most people stick to the official rules. That means Skaven 7th edition army book with the GW FAQ.
Across all WFB players? I don't know. For sure Warhammer Armies Project (WAP) is pretty popular. That is 100% fanmade, both Army books and main rules.
For myself, I'm not opposed to fanmade army books and rules. But all the ones I've seen are just as lopsided and flawed as the official GW rules. Maybe I would pick a choose a half dozen individual changes from WAP. But over all the changes are way too extreme for my liking.
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Post by padre on Nov 21, 2021 21:34:39 GMT
The 7th ed Skaven army book works perfectly well with 8th ed, and indeed we suspected at the time (based on no official evidence) that it was written with the idea that it would be used in 8th ed eventually. I think (stress think) it came out not that long before 8th ed.
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Post by larsen on Nov 21, 2021 21:37:40 GMT
Thanks for the response! Guess I will go with the 7th then. Too bad there are no Stormfiends and Brood Horrors in it though.
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Post by thegoat on Nov 21, 2021 22:10:32 GMT
The 7th ed Skaven army book works perfectly well with 8th ed, and indeed we suspected at the time (based on no official evidence) that it was written with the idea that it would be used in 8th ed eventually. I think (stress think) it came out not that long before 8th ed. Skaven 7th edition army book was the second to last 7th edition army book. It was released November 2009. The Beastmen army book was the last 7th edition army book (February 2010) and it also doesn't have a true 8th edition equivalent. |
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Post by thegoat on Nov 21, 2021 22:17:27 GMT
Thanks for the response! Guess I will go with the 7th then. Too bad there are no Stormfiends and Brood Horrors in it though. Go ahead and use them. End Times: Thanquol (Stormfiends) and Monstrous Arcanum (Brood Horror) are both official WFB 8th edition supplements. Though if I ever get around to painting my Brood Horror model, I plan to use it as a "counts as" Hell Pit Abomination as I never liked the official model. |
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Post by larsen on Nov 22, 2021 10:18:26 GMT
Hell yeah, thanks a lot. I can't see any value of Brood Horror in battle, but this thing just fascinates me. Too abhorent to exist, yet here it is.
Boy, I got a lot of questions about Skaven tactics, and it's great to talk to experienced players. Do you mind continuing this thread, or should I move to Skaven thread instead?
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Post by larsen on Nov 22, 2021 16:23:37 GMT
Right, I think I'll better move underground. Thanks everyone for the answers!
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Post by KevinC on Dec 18, 2021 22:41:18 GMT
larsen, Welcome to the forum. Regarding Skaven: their 7th edition book was one the penultimate army book for 7th edition, clearly written with 8th edition rules in mind. I'm not sure why people hate it as you say, unless they think it's too powerful. Skaven armies were extremely good in 6 and 7 edition. They work really well in 8th edition too. There is an ends times supplement, Warhammer: Thanquol, that has new units and updates for Skaven in 8th edition as well. FYI.
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Post by oldmandan on Feb 10, 2022 11:10:44 GMT
7th edition Skaven is by far the best version in 6th I found my units ran away constantly They still do in 7th/8th but not to the same extreme, probably because I use bigger units now as not impeded by that stupid mainstay rule. Also they brought back the doomwheel and the Skaven craziness which was what made them so characterful.
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