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Post by frozenfood on Jan 19, 2017 10:57:56 GMT
We usually play for 2500 points and use 2D3+2 pieces of scenery. This always means 6 pieces for some reason.
The last couple of times we divide the battlefield in 6 and throw dice to dices where the scenery lands.
When I look at the pictures of your battles, I see a lot less wood/marshes/rivers.
How do you guys decide the amount of scenery and where to put them?
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Jan 19, 2017 13:06:48 GMT
I often "set up" the table before my opponent arrives and attempt to create a balanced and cool looking scene to fight over. When I play dannytee, we have a tradition of rolling for terrain and taking turns placing it. This takes longer and requires more setup space, but for us, it is a really fun part of the game. I'm generally annoyed when things like "river" roll up on the table because I find them annoying to deal with in the game. I realize many of the folks who abandoned Warhammer Fantasy cite the many different types of terrain as a thing they didn't like. For me, having a collection of unique terrain pieces on a shelf is a fun modeling goal that allows for great variety in our battles. Numbers: I think when we roll for terrain we generally end up with about 6-8 pieces. Lots of settlements (clusters of buildings plus walls). If folks are not rolling for terrain placement before battles, I'd recommend giving it a try. If you roll for "temple of skulls" and you really don't have anything to represent it, just roll again. |
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Post by gjnoronh on Jan 19, 2017 15:02:20 GMT
I agree with Rick approach depends.
Friendlies I'll just set up the board in advance.
More competition type games I'll pull 5-6 pieces and we will then take turns placing (and scattering) the terrain before choosing sides.
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Post by KevinC on Jan 20, 2017 17:37:25 GMT
Although true LOS and terrain are parts of 8th I was never thrilled about, it does make a game more fun (and balanced?) to have less cumbersome terrain rules. It also allows you to put more terrain out which looks cool.
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Post by Horace on Jan 20, 2017 20:22:57 GMT
I tend to either set up a board that looks fun, or we roll out of the rulebook and follow those rules. I am generally a fan of lots of terrain, I think maneuvering is one of the main skillful aspects of the game.
We don't really play true LOS it's too much like hard work.
One of my aims is to make all the possible scenery rolls from the rulebook. The biggest job I have is a river, I have some realistic water stuff to have a go with but have too many things to paint atm
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Post by KevinC on Jan 20, 2017 21:17:35 GMT
A note in regards to terrain and terrain building for 8th, if you build terrain with true LOS in mind, the scenery rules become really good. For example, a forest packed with trees so thick is really does block LOS and large buildings, hills, and other structure that block LOS. I agree with Horace, lots of terrain is good. Maneuvering your troops on a difficult battle is challenging and fun. |
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Post by gjnoronh on Jan 20, 2017 23:21:03 GMT
Agreed. Complaints about 8th came from hangovers about terrainnp standards from previous editions. For what it's worth I find the AoS rules for terrain to be really interesting when you play as intended.
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Post by Naitsabes on Jan 21, 2017 0:15:25 GMT
I don't like dicing for terrain, it tends to be so random (go figure). Farmstead next to chaos temple just doesn't look right. We usually have one guy set up in some manner that makes 'sense', maybe that farmstead would be next to a pond for example. Then the other guy gets to pick sides.
I do agree that more is better when it comes to terrain.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jan 21, 2017 1:58:43 GMT
We just generally setup terrain however we like. I like both heavy terrain setups and 'open plains' battles. Unfortunately I am pretty much the only one in my group who actually owns a decent amount of painted terrain so if the battle is at another location where I am bringing forces it's a hassle to bring terrain as well so we generally end up doing a plains battle.
I do absolutely love an epic terrain covered battlefield... Variety is the spice of life. For thing like forests we don't roll on the random rules although if the mood is there we will use some of the 'special effects' terrain rules but we will mutually choose it rather than rolling.
For battles at my house where I am games mastering I am quite fond of the setup where before armies are placed I will give each team say 3 forests and a castle and then they can place them anywhere on either their side of the table or sometimes the whole battlefield depending on the thrip.
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Post by dannytee on Jan 22, 2017 17:49:00 GMT
When I play dannytee , we have a tradition of rolling for terrain and taking turns placing it. Yes, Rich and I usually use the format described in the big red rule book at page 142. This calls for D6+4 pieces and we then roll on the random terrain chart. When I know it is Rich I am playing against I often roll before we even meet up (but after my army list is finalized) to save game time. We then alternate placing this terrain. Most tournaments I have played in had 6 pieces of terrain on each table. Before deployment the two players alternate placing this terrain. Terrain is not allowed to be placed within 6" of a table edge or within 6" of another piece of terrain. Then you scatter 3d6 inches. During scattering the 6" restriction for table edge and other terrain still applies. So during scattering as soon as a terrain piece comes within 6" it stops there. |
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Post by Horace on Jan 23, 2017 13:17:52 GMT
All this talk of terrain has got me in the mood.. started putting together some quicksand and a swamp  I still need to make a river and some sort of statue (I will probably use the Scibor Dwarfen Ruins) and would like Dreadstone Blight then I probably have something to cover most of the stuff on the table. I have another big block of blue foam I should probably use on something too |
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Post by frozenfood on Jan 23, 2017 14:35:12 GMT
Yeah, I took a pair of scissors to a blue placemat and called it a day  |
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Jan 23, 2017 14:52:22 GMT
We usually divide the table into 6 sections and roll a D6 for each piece. Quick and simple.
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Post by frozenfood on Jan 23, 2017 16:27:18 GMT
Then you have a piece of scenery in every section by default...horde armies must really suffer at your games |
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Jan 23, 2017 18:41:47 GMT
It usually works out |
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