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Post by mahbruck on Jun 22, 2017 2:49:41 GMT
The ultimate trick to getting good deals on E-bay is patience. If you put yourself on any sort of time limit you'll get taken to the cleaners. If you're in a hurry, it's better to just buy new from another company unless you ABSOLUTELY have to have GW Official Stuff. Best advice there is on Ebay.
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Post by mottdon on Jun 23, 2017 13:25:36 GMT
Lol, I started this thread because of my frustration with the lack of product and prices on eBay, but as of last night, I won my 9th army - Skaven! Get this: 120+ Clanrats 2 Warp Engineers 2 Warlords 1 Assassin 6 Rat Ogres 1 War Lightening Cannon 1 Screaming Bell 1 Abomination 1 Doom Wheel 2 Warp Fire Throwers teams 2 Poison Wind Globe teams and a few other random models. All for $200. LOL! I suppose it is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 16:12:46 GMT
Thanks to IoB skaven are a very easy army to acquire on the cheap. Although I've noticed if you try to buy the rares individually then they get pretty expensive.
Nice find congrats!
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Post by vulcan on Jun 23, 2017 23:06:48 GMT
If you've got the funding, the large lots generally are the best deals. It's usually someone trying to get rid of a whole army in one easy go.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Jun 24, 2017 8:56:07 GMT
Set yourself a limit. I use hammersnipe so I don't have to be at the end of an auction, plus I'm not tempted to bud higher than my wallet can afford.
Greg
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Post by vulcan on Jun 25, 2017 0:45:54 GMT
Why would you need to be watching at the end of an auction if you set yourself a limit? Bid the limit and unless someone outbids that limit you win.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jun 25, 2017 6:14:10 GMT
Why would you need to be watching at the end of an auction if you set yourself a limit? Bid the limit and unless someone outbids that limit you win. The thing is, if you bet your limit early, others can see it and outbid you. If you only bet your maximum in the final minute your chance of winning the item goes up drastically. All my Mierce Miniatures stuff I acquired from last minute eBay snipes where I only revealed my interest right at the end.
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Post by Horace on Jun 25, 2017 19:01:12 GMT
Why would you need to be watching at the end of an auction if you set yourself a limit? Bid the limit and unless someone outbids that limit you win. The thing is, if you bet your limit early, others can see it and outbid you. If you only bet your maximum in the final minute your chance of winning the item goes up drastically. All my Mierce Miniatures stuff I acquired from last minute eBay snipes where I only revealed my interest right at the end. I prefer the last 5secs
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Post by knoffles on Jun 25, 2017 22:08:13 GMT
Agreed, bid your limit in the last 5 secs. It frustrates the hell out of me seeing early price bidding and items unnecessarily increasing in price. so many warhammer items seem to fall into this pot. I always assume it's someone artificially inflating the price as I can't believe that many people bid in this manner. (You've probably noted this is a pet peev...)
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Post by vulcan on Jun 26, 2017 1:13:57 GMT
Why would you need to be watching at the end of an auction if you set yourself a limit? Bid the limit and unless someone outbids that limit you win. The thing is, if you bet your limit early, others can see it and outbid you. If you only bet your maximum in the final minute your chance of winning the item goes up drastically. All my Mierce Miniatures stuff I acquired from last minute eBay snipes where I only revealed my interest right at the end. Ah... no, no they can't see what your max bid is. They see what the CURRENT bid is, and have no idea how much your max bid is. Here's how it works. The seller puts something up with a minimum bid of $1. I'm interested and bid $20 as my max bid. The CURRENT bid is still $1. Someone else comes along and bids $2. Since my max bid is more than that, e-bay automatically raises my bid to $2.25 - the minimum to defeat a bid of $2. The current bid is now $2.25 and that's all they see. This continues right up to when someone else bids $20. The current bid remains $20, but it's still my bid of $20 that counts because I bid first. The guy who bid $20 and sees that he was 'outbid' now knows my max bid is $20, but no one else does. (I've used this to my advantage on occasion; when I'm the guy who bids $20 and get 'outbid' by a current bid of $20. A minimum raise usually nets me the item.) As soon as someone bids at least $20.25 they take the lead and I'm outbid. (At this point e-bay notifies you that you were outbid... and I delete the item off my watch list.) All this (well, anything not in parenthesis) happens automatically, regardless of whether you're online or not. Been doing it this way for some years now, and it's not always reliable at getting me the item, it IS reliable at keeping me from bidding more than I really should have.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Jun 26, 2017 5:53:51 GMT
Rather than have bid creep where as you point out they can react to their own bid. "Oh, I'm still not the highest bidder, I'll bid again..." if you use a snipe program, you can see the item, plan how much your limit is, put these details in and then leave it. Machine bids in the final few seconds. If it's under you lose, but you've not gone over your budget. If you win theres a chance others haven't had the bidding bug and your way way under your price.
People get effected by the bidding bug, your not the highest bidder so they bid again... and again till they are. If everyone does that the seller is making cash (and so is ebay) I tend now-a-days to put the initial auction on higher for what I want for the item or have it as a buy now option.
Greg
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Post by mottdon on Jun 26, 2017 13:34:01 GMT
Yeah, the last second bid is the best way to go for me because I'll tend to go over the limit I've set for myself if I don't. I HATE losing a bid war. That's why I NEED to bid in the last few seconds.
Now, I have seen something where there were no bids at all and as soon as I place a bid, it automatically says I've been outbid. This has happened quite a few times to me. I know that a seller can set a bid cap so that they don't wind up selling something worth $10 for $.01. That would suck and I totally get it, but I thought that the shown price would start at that minimum cap. Am I wrong on that? Does it not show the minimum bid?
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Post by gjnoronh on Jun 26, 2017 18:47:41 GMT
You are right I think they can set a sell cap above the listed minimum bid.
Agree on the risk of the bidding bug. Really a dangerous thing. I laugh sometimes seeing things go for more then GW retail.
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Post by vulcan on Jun 26, 2017 19:48:50 GMT
I've seen that too and it irks me.
If you don't want to sell it too low, set a reserve so I can see that I'm not going to get the item for the low intial bid you've set. Setting a hidden reserve or using a bidding program or whatever to drive the price up just inspires me to walk away even if we're nowhere close to what I would normally pay.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 20:31:51 GMT
I just tell myself that I will only spend a certain $ amount on an item. I then usually look around for a buy it now auction that's at or below that price.
If it's an auction then I wait until the last possible min and bid what I'm willing to spend. If I don't get it then I wait for the next auction to come around.
Sometimes though if the auction has been going on for a while (couple weeks) people will be desperate to get rid of it and when I message them with an offer I can get them to take the auction down and send me a private offer to buy the item for the price that I want.
Most of the time that's how I handle it. I don't even wait for the end of the auction I message them with an offer and try and get them to take the auction down altogether.
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