8000 point game. Bretonnia Vs Skaven.
Aug 9, 2017 22:45:12 GMT
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Aug 9, 2017 22:45:12 GMT
So, a game planned for Friday.
I like playing with painted models so I've painted up a few more things (core mainly as I've been happy with the 600 points required by a 2400 point list. I also recently aquired the Fay Enchantress - you're probably aware I'm not a fan of special characters as GW didn't allow them in their tournament, nothing to stop me now
The list is a little limited as I'm redoing my Knights, the grail Knights especially. The KotR are being increased from 11 to 15 and I didn't have time to fully complete this and I've added Errants for the first time.
I thought it would be interesting to post my list adding a few pre game thoughts.
Firstly I think I'm up aganst it. I know my opponent loves his Skaven and has been successful with these in the past. I'm looking at potentially seeing 10+ Jezzails which are extremely good against my Knights but my concern has to be with doom wheels against my Pegasus knights. Added to that the bell is a real pain especially if he rolls an 11-12. Same goes for Cracks call which is faily simple to cast.
Skaven have a good track record against armour and I honestly don't know who my opponent will construct his list.
I'm hoping that my lone hero (hopefully with wyssans) is able to hurt and maybe take down the odd doom wheel. The Lord has HKB but we all know that's not something we can rely on but I'd be stupid not to take it. While I think the nasty things in his list are the rare selections I think the Bell has to take priority.
The Green Knight I've not rated well in the past, mainly as he was written under 6th edition and 8th is a completely different kettle of fish, I'd like to hope he'll do well against the jezzails. A terror causer in the back fields can't be a bad thing.
A lot of my list has to do with the Fay, I'd like to think I'll get the spell selections I want. (2,3,5,6) and as things go a level 4 has a better chance to do it. I could take an extra life mage to increase my chances but current thinking is that I'd like double wyssans and possibly something else. The Fay obviously adds something I'm not used to and thats the chance of going first. I believe in this game I may get the +1 unless my opponent goes horde with his units and max's out on numbers. I did consider going for a unit of 10 pegasus so I didn't have to take the Lord on a Pegasus. I did notice however the rule and FAQ are wrong about the Chalice of potions - the comet is now number 5 in the heavens list but I'll discuss this with my opponent before the game begins.
Playing with large numbers also opens up other possible options, I'd not looked at taking a magical banner on the BSB as he usually gets in combat but if I "lance up" he automatically goes in the second rank, I don't have to give way so can take a magical banner such as the banner of the lady. I've not gone with this option as of yet but it does open up a lot of options.
I don't think I've got that many options to change the list as of now, I've a few more archers available but all of my grail knights are unpainted so are undeployable currently. I've just started putting my men at arms together so I'll have to put in a progress report for these. Think I've another 30 archers to paint up as well.
Looking forward to larger games where I can actually use these models.
Greg
I like playing with painted models so I've painted up a few more things (core mainly as I've been happy with the 600 points required by a 2400 point list. I also recently aquired the Fay Enchantress - you're probably aware I'm not a fan of special characters as GW didn't allow them in their tournament, nothing to stop me now
The list is a little limited as I'm redoing my Knights, the grail Knights especially. The KotR are being increased from 11 to 15 and I didn't have time to fully complete this and I've added Errants for the first time.
I thought it would be interesting to post my list adding a few pre game thoughts.
Bretonnia 4000 points.
Lord (288)
(110) Pegasus (50) grail vow (28) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Virtue of heroism (40) Sword of swift slaying (25) grail shield (35)
The Green Knight (275)
The Fay Enchantress (545) Lore of life
Paladin (126)
(60) Barded warhorse (14) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Sword of hero’s (35) Other tricksters shard (15)
Paladin (184)
(60) BSB (-) Barded warhorse (14) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Virtue of empathy (10) Banner of the lady (100)
Damsel (155)
(70) Warhorse (10) Silver mirror (40) 2nd level (35) Lore of beasts
Damsel (140)
(70) Warhorse (10) Dispel scroll (25) 2nd level (35) Lore of beasts
14 Knights of the Realm (375)
(24) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Gallant (-) Std (16) mus (8) Banner of Discipline (15)
11 Knights of the Realm (298)
(24) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Gallant (-) Std (16) mus (8) Banner of Chalons (10)
5 Knights Errant (141)
(20) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Cavalier (-) Std (14) mus (7) Errantry banner (20)
30 Peasant bowmen (220)
(6) Long bow, hand weapon (-) Skirmishers (1) mus (5) Brazier (5)
5 Pegasus Knights (305)
(55) Pegasus (-) heavy armour (-) shield (-) Lance (-) hand weapon (-) Gallant (-) Std (20) mus (10)
4 Pegasus Knights (250)
(55) Pegasus (-) heavy armour (-) shield (-) Lance (-) hand weapon (-) Gallant (-) Std (20) mus (10)
5 Mounted Yeomen (87)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) Shield (1) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (87)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) Shield (1) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (82)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (82)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) mus (7)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Total = 4000
Lords 1108 (27.7 %)
Hero’s 605 (15.12 %)
Core 1034 (25.85 %)
Special 893 (22.32 %)
Rare 360 (9 %)
Spare 0 (0 %)
Lord (288)
(110) Pegasus (50) grail vow (28) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Virtue of heroism (40) Sword of swift slaying (25) grail shield (35)
The Green Knight (275)
The Fay Enchantress (545) Lore of life
Paladin (126)
(60) Barded warhorse (14) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Sword of hero’s (35) Other tricksters shard (15)
Paladin (184)
(60) BSB (-) Barded warhorse (14) heavy armour (-) hand weapon (-) Virtue of empathy (10) Banner of the lady (100)
Damsel (155)
(70) Warhorse (10) Silver mirror (40) 2nd level (35) Lore of beasts
Damsel (140)
(70) Warhorse (10) Dispel scroll (25) 2nd level (35) Lore of beasts
14 Knights of the Realm (375)
(24) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Gallant (-) Std (16) mus (8) Banner of Discipline (15)
11 Knights of the Realm (298)
(24) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Gallant (-) Std (16) mus (8) Banner of Chalons (10)
5 Knights Errant (141)
(20) Barded warhorse, heavy armour, shield, lance (-) Cavalier (-) Std (14) mus (7) Errantry banner (20)
30 Peasant bowmen (220)
(6) Long bow, hand weapon (-) Skirmishers (1) mus (5) Brazier (5)
5 Pegasus Knights (305)
(55) Pegasus (-) heavy armour (-) shield (-) Lance (-) hand weapon (-) Gallant (-) Std (20) mus (10)
4 Pegasus Knights (250)
(55) Pegasus (-) heavy armour (-) shield (-) Lance (-) hand weapon (-) Gallant (-) Std (20) mus (10)
5 Mounted Yeomen (87)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) Shield (1) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (87)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) Shield (1) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (82)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) mus (7)
5 Mounted Yeomen (82)
(15) Horse, hand weapon, spear, bow (-) mus (7)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Trebuchet (90) = (90)
Total = 4000
Lords 1108 (27.7 %)
Hero’s 605 (15.12 %)
Core 1034 (25.85 %)
Special 893 (22.32 %)
Rare 360 (9 %)
Spare 0 (0 %)
Skaven have a good track record against armour and I honestly don't know who my opponent will construct his list.
I'm hoping that my lone hero (hopefully with wyssans) is able to hurt and maybe take down the odd doom wheel. The Lord has HKB but we all know that's not something we can rely on but I'd be stupid not to take it. While I think the nasty things in his list are the rare selections I think the Bell has to take priority.
The Green Knight I've not rated well in the past, mainly as he was written under 6th edition and 8th is a completely different kettle of fish, I'd like to hope he'll do well against the jezzails. A terror causer in the back fields can't be a bad thing.
A lot of my list has to do with the Fay, I'd like to think I'll get the spell selections I want. (2,3,5,6) and as things go a level 4 has a better chance to do it. I could take an extra life mage to increase my chances but current thinking is that I'd like double wyssans and possibly something else. The Fay obviously adds something I'm not used to and thats the chance of going first. I believe in this game I may get the +1 unless my opponent goes horde with his units and max's out on numbers. I did consider going for a unit of 10 pegasus so I didn't have to take the Lord on a Pegasus. I did notice however the rule and FAQ are wrong about the Chalice of potions - the comet is now number 5 in the heavens list but I'll discuss this with my opponent before the game begins.
Playing with large numbers also opens up other possible options, I'd not looked at taking a magical banner on the BSB as he usually gets in combat but if I "lance up" he automatically goes in the second rank, I don't have to give way so can take a magical banner such as the banner of the lady. I've not gone with this option as of yet but it does open up a lot of options.
I don't think I've got that many options to change the list as of now, I've a few more archers available but all of my grail knights are unpainted so are undeployable currently. I've just started putting my men at arms together so I'll have to put in a progress report for these. Think I've another 30 archers to paint up as well.
Looking forward to larger games where I can actually use these models.
Greg