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Post by strutsagget on Sept 7, 2017 14:56:02 GMT
So tomorrow is my first WoC game.
I think about bringing this list. Any help tweaking appriciated.
Do not own any chimeras and mounted Barbarians.
Is it better bringing more warriors? Then what should I remove?
Chaos First Try
Warriors of Chaos
Sorceror Lord: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Metal; Mark of Tzeentch; Disc of Tzeentch; Talisman of Preservation; Enchanted Shield; Third Eye of Tzeentch 375
Exalted Hero: Mark of Tzeentch; great weapon; Battle Standard; Daemonic Mount (barding); Armour of Destiny; Scaled Skin 271
22 Chaos Warriors: Aspiring Champion; musician; standard bearer; Mark of Nurgle; shield; halberds; Banner of Swiftness 485
5 Chaos Warhounds 30
5 Chaos Warhounds 30
7 Chaos Knights: Doom Knight; musician; standard bearer; Mark of Khorne; lances 338
Hellcannon 210
3 Skullcrushers of Khorne: Skullhunter; musician; standard bearer; lances 261
2 000 points
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Post by mottdon on Sept 7, 2017 16:47:10 GMT
I think you'll enjoy this game. Your opponent has been so used to just how easy it is to kill an elf. They are going to be surprised by the 180 degrees WoC is from WE. He'll really have to adjust his play style.
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 7, 2017 18:21:59 GMT
I think you'll enjoy this game. Your opponent has been so used to just how easy it is to kill an elf. They are going to be surprised by the 180 degrees WoC is from WE. He'll really have to adjust his play style. Is there any tactics I can read about WoC?  |
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 7, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
I think you'll enjoy this game. Your opponent has been so used to just how easy it is to kill an elf. They are going to be surprised by the 180 degrees WoC is from WE. He'll really have to adjust his play style. And is there any tips on what to face trolls and chariots with? |
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Post by mottdon on Sept 7, 2017 18:36:32 GMT
I can advise on most armies, but WoC really isn't one of them. I've played against them quite a bit, but I don't really know a winning strategy with them.
First thing I'd probably try to do is keep your Skullcrushers and Knights relatively close together and push them up fast. Use the dogs to chaff and prevent them from facing multiple units at once. Steadily march the Warriors forward while letting your Hellcannon blast away. Pretty basic. That was probably what you were thinking anyway.
I don't really know about the placement of the Hellcannon though. It's a monster, right? it might be better off as far forward as possible, inviting your enemies to "come get some"! Others here can answer this better than I can, but hopefully I've given you food for thought.
*Sorry, you posted that last comment after I started this reply.*
As for the Trolls, I might try to line up my Warriors with them. They can ignore that armor save of your knights, so I wouldn't want to risk losing them to Troll Vomit. Try chasing down the chariots and stuff like that with them. As far as Fanatics go, I'd try hitting them with the Hellcannon first and panic them off the board. Shoot for the one farthest away from the general first.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 7, 2017 20:42:42 GMT
Anyone playing WOC is an abomination in the eyes of Sigmar - they should be burned at the stake! Oh, wait, this isn't warhammer-empire.com, is it?
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Post by mottdon on Sept 7, 2017 21:21:19 GMT
Lol! This is kinda how Empire players tend to view WoC!
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 7, 2017 22:08:41 GMT
WoC. And DoC. And BoC. And Skaven. And Dark Elves. And Vampires. And Tomb Kings.
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Post by knoffles on Sept 8, 2017 8:06:38 GMT
What mottdon said. I've also had limited play using them but have faced them quite a few times. Use dogs to draw out fanatics, block units you don't want to fight fairly or try and get round to his warmachines. Normal chaff duties. You may also want to use them to shield the Skullcrushers to prevent frenzy baiting. The Hellcannon will either be fantastic or a total liability, definitely place it towards the centre and not on the back line as there's a chance it will storm forward to attack and it's not at all bad in combat. |
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Post by knoffles on Sept 8, 2017 8:10:24 GMT
WoC. And DoC. And BoC. And Skaven. And Dark Elves. And Vampires. And Tomb Kings. But I thought Beastmen were viewed as the lovable cuddly teadybears of the Drakenwald? |
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 8, 2017 8:26:11 GMT
There may be some Empire players that think so, or disagree with what I said above, but they are either heretics or mignons of Chaos, and should be burned at the stake.
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Post by askaval30 on Sept 8, 2017 14:55:49 GMT
ok, long time WoC player here... here's my 0.02$ about your list.
Knights want magic weapons, not lances... sure S6 on the charge looks impressive, but statistically S5 and magic attacks are vastly superior for the most part.
Put the Banner of Flame on the Warriors and try to aim them at the trolls since those beasties will put a number on your expensive knights.
Use dogs to draw out the fanatics and bait any Frenzied savage orcs he might have (OnG players use them a lot), and while we're on the topic be careful with your own frenzied units (Knights & Skullcrushers) to avoid the same fate
Crushers and Cav to one side, Hellcannon on the other. Do not ignore how brutally effective the HC can be in melee, in fact I'd encourage you to charge it in there after the first 2-3 rounds of shooting.
Be afraid of the mangler Squig... Hand of Gork + mangler is worse than the foot of Mork IMHO.
Other than that you have a great list, and i envy you the game!
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 8, 2017 15:20:15 GMT
So did sone small changes to fit a dispel scroll.
Removes a warrior and a crusher champion. Added a gleaming pennant on crushers for last 5 points.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 8, 2017 15:23:32 GMT
Be afraid of the mangler Squig... Hand of Gork + mangler is worse than the foot of Mork IMHO. ^This. I always try to include at least one Mangler Squig in my O&G lists for this purpose. It is NASTY! Especially if units are all tightly packed in together! |
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Post by strutsagget on Sept 8, 2017 22:18:02 GMT
So got one shotted turn one again, then with no mage foot of gork took care of the rest.... war machines really made all games suck so far.
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