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Post by mottdon on Sept 8, 2017 21:57:25 GMT
So I'm having a friendly game tomorrow vs Wood Elves. I'm trying to go a bit easier on him since he's still relatively new, so...no artillery!
Here's my list:
Lords:
Arch Lector [General] - (War Altar, Heavy Armor, Charmed Shield, Horn of Sigsimund) - 269
Heroes:
Battle Wizard - (Lv2, Dispel Scroll) - 125
Captain (BSB, Full Plate Armor, Enchanted Shield, Ring of Volans) - 126
Captain (Full Plate Armor, Shield, Dragonhelm, Luckstone, Crown of Command) - 118
Captain (Pegasus, Full Plate Armor, Lance, Shield, White Cloak of Ulric) - 170
Witch Hunter (Brace of Pistols) - 55
Witch Hunter (Brace of Pistols) - 55
Core:
40 Halberdiers (Full Command) - 270
-[Detachment] 20 Halberdiers -120
-[Detachment] 10 Handgunners - 90
40 Militia - 240
Special:
40 Greatswords (Full Command, Banner of Eternal Flame) - 480
-[Detachment] 10 Crossbowmen - 90
-[Detachment] 10 Handgunners - 90
10 Huntsmen - 80
Rare:
Luminark of Hysh - 120
=2498 points
What do you guys think?
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Post by knoffles on Sept 8, 2017 23:33:40 GMT
It's the first Empire list I've seen in an age without a Stank! I bet it feels a bit like you're naked...
Great swords are possibly my favourite Empire unit but you rarely see them used (at least around here), so I like you have them and such a big unit too. For the rest I can't really comment as my experience is normally against them, being smashed to pieces by one of the regular tournament layers at the club.
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Post by Naitsabes on Sept 9, 2017 4:14:54 GMT
To me this list seemed friendly and weak on first glance. Then I realized both your big blocks (and the detachments!) will be stubborn. so, I picture the wood elf guy trying his hardest to get all his hard-hitting yet fragile units aligned for that perfect charge. Then he jumps your block with all his guys expecting to break you. But...you are stubborn+hold the line. Then he sheds some big salty elf tears as you countercharge. This may be what you are after?
Especially if the guy is relatively new I would explain the stubborn/hold the line situation. I like the list. low magic, no war machine, slow blocks against a very very different kind of army. should be a fine game of warhammer, far away from cookie-cutter tournament play.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 9, 2017 5:17:35 GMT
Lol, well...maybe not TOO easy for him. I toyed with the idea of leaving the two Witch Hunters at home and taking a Mortar instead, but I didn't want to dedicate a unit to defending it. He's almost sure to bring Glade Riders.
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Post by frozenfood on Sept 9, 2017 5:56:35 GMT
The arch lector gets no ward save?
Cool greatswords unit, let me know how they do.
Why are there 2 stubborn units? The crown and...?
Why two witch hunters, expecting some wizards that will come close?
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Post by mottdon on Sept 10, 2017 0:56:52 GMT
Honestly, not expecting too much from the Arch Lector. He's mostly just there to buff with hatred and prayers. If push comes to shove, I'm hoping that the Terror from the Horn of Sigsimund pays off.
Greatswords are stubborn. It's part of their special rules. So sticking the Crown of Command in with the Halberdiers makes two Stubborn parent units.
The Witch Hunters are there mostly as extra, higher-attack options and maybe to get a lucky shot off.
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Post by FvonSigmaringen on Sept 10, 2017 8:17:19 GMT
In any case, Witch Hunters are reasonably cheap. For 50 points, you get a character, MR 2 (itself normally priced at 30 pts), unit protection against Terror (through Grim Resolve), and a special rule (Accusation) that tends to have a useful negative psychological impact on your opponent.
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Post by mottdon on Sept 10, 2017 11:14:02 GMT
Plus, the Witch Hunter's MR2 works nicely with the Luminark's 6++ ward save. That's a combo that I love to take to provide my units with more defence, something Empire troops can't get enough of.
You'll see it come into play when I manage to get our game posted. Rather entertaining!
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