bigal
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Post by bigal on Feb 8, 2018 22:20:04 GMT
Hey everyone, I am coming out of retirement! I'm ready to play some 8th ed, but would so much rather play 7th. How many of the old crew are left?
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Post by mottdon on Feb 8, 2018 22:26:36 GMT
Sorry, sir. I only play 8th. I picked up the game just after 8th was introduced. And now with 9th age, and AoS pulling from our dwindling player base, I'm afraid that it's getting harder and harder to find members of the old guard.
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Post by bigal on Feb 8, 2018 22:40:14 GMT
7th was way better! No premeasuring, no high elf book that broke the game. You really missed out!
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Post by grandmasterwang on Feb 8, 2018 23:03:16 GMT
7th didn't need High Elves to break the game.... they had Daemons of Chaos!
I have no problemo with High Elves in 8th Edition.
I'll have to disagree with you on 7th Edition being better, Ive followed Warhammer since 5th Edition and 8th is by far my favourite. To me it is the best representative of a game of Fantasy Battles.
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Feb 8, 2018 23:16:10 GMT
8th is a good system but there are things of my 7th edition lists I miss. To be fair the rules are way apart and we could have done with an 8.5
I haven't looked at 9th age, maybe I should have done but its hard to ditch a system you have all the books and all the cards for.
Greg
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Post by vulcan on Feb 9, 2018 4:13:31 GMT
If you're a Bret player, you won't like what 9th Age did to them.... unless you like hordes and hordes and hordes of infantry doing the heavy lifting, while cavalry sits off to the side and holds their coats.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Feb 9, 2018 4:53:54 GMT
8th is a good system but there are things of my 7th edition lists I miss. To be fair the rules are way apart and we could have done with an 8.5 I haven't looked at 9th age, maybe I should have done but its hard to ditch a system you have all the books and all the cards for. Greg The 9th Age crew failed their animosity test and stood around squabbling... |
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Post by KevinC on Feb 9, 2018 15:03:05 GMT
Bigal, if you coming from 7th into 8th, it might seem a little strange at first because 8th ed did change in the game in a many ways. When 8th first came out, I didn't really like it. But the more I got used the rules, the more I enjoyed it and it became my favorite edition of the game!
What's more, all things considered, 8th is by far the most balance version of WFB. Some examples: Skirmish armies, Shooting armies and Flying circus armies do not dominate the game, march blocking does not completely hose you over, magic power dice cannot be stacked and planned out in the army list (the Winds of Magic are random), infantry (finally) is as good as they should be, random charges create an interesting dynamic, etc.
Give it a chance and I believe you'll like it.
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Post by gjnoronh on Feb 9, 2018 15:03:26 GMT
I liked them all. Al is a good example of the angst about change that 8th provoked in 7th ed players. There was a lot of rage about 8th ed when it came out. We lost about 1/4 of all WFB gamers when 8th came out because it was so different then what was before it. AoS was even more of the same,
Honestly having played since 3rd ed I like them all, they are all different. I think 8th was much better then many thought it would be when it came out. I think the same of AoS. They all actually capture the feel of Warhammer better then anyone would have guessed.
I thought 8th was much more balanced to play then 7th and quite a lot of fun with the randomness.
I don't think AoS is particularly well balanced but some of the randomness that folks didn't like when it came out actually adds a lot to the fun and provides some interesting tactical choices. Having played them all I'll say an army in AoS generally plays 'like it should' per the fluff which I think is a big win. The rules tend to fit the character of the army well. I didn't like that the best strategy with orcs and goblins in 8th was to have a shooting gunline foot of gorking from their deployment zone.
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Post by mottdon on Feb 9, 2018 15:10:30 GMT
When I started 8th, most armies still had their 7th edition army books. I think Tomb Kings had their 8th book and O&G was brand new. I played Empire and soon after HE, followed by Dwarves, so I had enough time to get used to their 7th edition ABs and ALL of those Heirloom Magical Items that each book had. I was especially sad to see items like Empire's Holy Icon or High Elves Arcane Banner go, but it did make building you characters much easier. The hardest hit were the changes to the Anvil of Doom. It was such a cool piece and became virtually useless. Sad. But overall, I've really liked 8th edition and don't want to go to anything else. Also, it seems as though more and more people are getting tired of the 9th age and AoS systems and are returning to playing 8th. It has just taken time for people to burn the "new" out of their system.
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Post by askaval30 on Feb 9, 2018 16:37:43 GMT
Also, it seems as though more and more people are getting tired of the 9th age and AoS systems and are returning to playing 8th. It has just taken time for people to burn the "new" out of their system. How I wish this was true for my neck of the woods! Anyhow I started in a similar fashion, my best friend and I had been ogling Warhammer for years since 4th... it was only when 8th came around that we had that magical combination of disposable income and time to allow us to play. That said I remember using the 7th ed version of the warriors of chaos book that first year... I do miss some aspects of 7th that seemed to have been excessively nerfed (marauders and the Empire mortar to name a few), but I think overally speaking 8th is the pinnacle of what I consider the 'warhammer experience' |
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Post by Hegen on Feb 9, 2018 21:14:06 GMT
8th ed is a lazier edition,look for example at the lack of magical objects, based too much on GW catalogue, and all the new units had a silly concept.
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Post by vulcan on Feb 9, 2018 22:58:10 GMT
8th ed is a lazier edition,look for example at the lack of magical objects, based too much on GW catalogue, and all the new units had a silly concept. I'll grant you've got a fair amount of courage, to come onto this website and insult everyone here including the mods. If you don't like Eighth Edition, why are you even on the "Eighth Edition For Life" forums? |
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Post by magicjuggler on Feb 9, 2018 23:34:17 GMT
Honestly imo, both 7th and 8th did certain things better or worse than one another.
I like having a larger list of common magic items. I also like having a large list of army-specific items (I was a fan of Aldred's Casket for the Empire in 7th).
I like Skirmishers being a clean "movement tray" unit in 8th, and the removal of partials. I dislike cannons hitting both rider and beast, but I am glad S7 no longer autonukes Chariots.
I dislike the 8th changes to Bound Spells and Maflgic Resistance, but I like the Signature Spells/Lore Attributes for 8th.
I imagine a proper hybrid would be ideal.
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bigal
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Post by bigal on Feb 10, 2018 1:59:35 GMT
I miss my storm of chaos slayer army, I started warhammer with dwarves in 6th and the 7th Edition book (IMO) was way better than the 8th edition, I liked the way runes stacked in 7th, and the anvil was cool. I liked the way bound spells worked in 7th, and I hated the skink skirmisher army in 6th, so when they nerfed them in 7th, I was happy.
I miss saying "You're outmassed by fear" the most lol
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