Skaven Players

KEEP YOUR DOOMBULL AWAY FROM THE DOOMWHEEL. Unless you're confident in being able to finish it in one round of combat this thing will mulch you in the shooting phase. It essentially fires 3 cannonballs that autohit the closest target within 18". Variable Strength on the shot is it's only mitigating factor, but do you really want to risk that? Do remember though - the Doomwheel allows armor saves, the warplightning cannon does not. 

Ratling guns are handgun stats: he rolls a D6 and that's the number of shots that he gets with it. If he's feeling adventurous he can roll another D6 and add that to the number of shots that he gets. He can keep doing that until he's confident in the number of shots he's getting or he rolls a double. If he rolls a double then it's a misfire. And the double that is rolled determines the severity of the misfire (double 6's are MUCH worse than double 1's). They'll be in there most likely as chaff removal - they're BS3 and I can't see them doing enough damage to threaten much else. Doomflayers are close combat weapon teams...you roll an artillery dice and it causes that many automatic hits at S4 -2 AS. They're...not terrible?

Against skaven you want to target the rare choices and the general/bsb. Skaven core/special are nothing special, they rely on their characters and their rare choices to do all the damage. And the rare choices especially are VERY good at what they do. Not sure if you've got any flaming attacks but it's worthwhile to have something with flaming in the army - it makes tackling the HPA much easier as now it's only T5 W6 no save. I also play Beastmen so I know how hard it is to get flaming in the list though If you get the opportunity to take out the general/bsb JUMP ON IT! Skaven are VERY dependent on their general/bsb to stick around so if you can get at those pieces of his army it will be the better for you.

The hellpit and the doomwhell are both random movement so be prepared for that - I've had that catch opponents off guard before; that means you won't get any charge reactions against them, you can't march block them, you're not safe in their flanks, and you're potentially in charge distance of them 18" away.

That's all I can think of for now.

Most of the time I would imagine it's because they need to fit as many RnF units as they can within the general/bsb bubble. That means that the HPA gets relegated to the flank. Also as a flanker it forces your opponent to deploy something substantial to deal with it as your typical flanking unit (light cav, small infantry units) cannot handle the HPA without serious support. Hell I'd expect this thing to win against dragons, it's THAT nasty. This also allows the HPA to come at the battleline from the side where fewer attacks back mean fewer regen saves to attempt.

As far as the doomwheel, most people just want to keep the thing as far away as possible from their own lines; the warp lightning doesn't discriminate between friend and foe, and Ld7 to restrain shooting isn't exactly reliable.

Cheers gents. The doom rocket butchered a massive chunk of my Bestigor last time, it shocked me how effective it was (though it could have easily missed).

Your bell is you anchor and should go on the side u need to hold. For me, it is on the other side away of the doomwheel. Put the Hellpit in the middle somewhere and make sure that doom wheel doesnt blow it up with clanrants inbetween. Dont be afraid to flee, its the skaven thing to do.