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Post by gjnoronh on Apr 10, 2018 19:09:57 GMT
JM Reynolds
Interesting if incomplete data.
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Post by And again... on Apr 10, 2018 19:47:24 GMT
What's he's trying to prove?
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Post by gjnoronh on Apr 10, 2018 20:39:57 GMT
That his more recent works are generally selling better? He almost certainly gets paid on sales. Up to you to decide why you think that is.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Apr 11, 2018 3:30:52 GMT
I would like to know the figures on his Gotrek and Felix novels.
I enjoyed his second Queen Khalida featuring one quite a bit.
I'm pretty sure I read Knight of the Blazing Sun and thought it was crap...so it seems he has improved as an author.
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Post by gjnoronh on Apr 11, 2018 12:46:58 GMT
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Post by knoffles on Apr 11, 2018 18:10:03 GMT
I did like the queen Khaleda one. I also liked knights of the blazing sun. Though I did buy knights second hand (as I do most of the older Warhammer books) so didn’t help his sales.
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Post by mottdon on Apr 11, 2018 18:26:34 GMT
I've never picked KotBS up. May have to do that. Usually too busy painting though...
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Post by grandmasterwang on Apr 11, 2018 23:51:52 GMT
I also lost interest during the Nathan Long era. I did read the one about Krell though. Road of Skulls was ok. It features chaos dwarfs which was a plus but the book craps all over King Ungrim and his Karak which I hated and fails spectacularly as it pertains to them. It does however bring in a cool crop of chaos bad guys who are portrayed much better than the dwarfs. The book had lots of potential but unfortunately falls short. Josh Reynolds second Gotrek and Felix book (forgot the name atm) set in a feud between TK and VC however was a thoroughly enjoyable read and I liked it much more than the Nathan Long book I read. Josh clearly improved a lot in writing G & F books and it shows. Some nice moments between Gotrek and Felix and amusing interactions between Gotrek and a Tomb Prince. This book can be read as a stand alone and is independent of the inferior book which came before it. I certainly recommend this one and Tomb Kings were well underrepresented in Warhammer Fantasy books. Definitely worth picking up if you like Gotrek/Felix and/or Tomb Kings/Khalida. First book (Road of skulls) is still worth reading but not as good as his second go round which is fair because he was new to the series. I still preferred it to the Nathan Long G&F book I read. It kept me interested till the end even though I disagreed with a couple of things in it. If the Slaughterbrute from the book was playable it would be a 500 point pick.
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Post by sedge on Apr 12, 2018 10:44:34 GMT
Agreed with the general consensus about the Gotrek & Felix books - The Serpent Queen was great; Road of Skulls nothing special (but much better than David Guymer's City of the Damned which came between the two).
Josh Reynolds also did the unfinished Blood of Nagash trilogy - Neferata and Master of Death (W'Soran), which were both decent. Unfortunately AoS killed off the Abhorash book, which would have been amazing (it wouldn't be possible to write a bad book about Abhorash!)
From the End Times tie-in novels, he did the first (Return of Nagash) and last (The Lord of the End Times), both of which were good - though with usual End Times disclaimers (inclined to induce rage about the end of the old world, and having to skip over significant characters/places).
He was also nice enough to answer lots of questions from fans about the fate of those omitted characters/places on a couple of sites until GW told him a few months later to stop doing so.
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Post by gjnoronh on Apr 12, 2018 20:22:46 GMT
Interesting didn't know about all that. Okay I have to check these out.
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Post by knoffles on Apr 23, 2018 6:26:51 GMT
Agreed with the general consensus about the Gotrek & Felix books - The Serpent Queen was great; Road of Skulls nothing special (but much better than David Guymer's City of the Damned which came between the two). Josh Reynolds also did the unfinished Blood of Nagash trilogy - Neferata and Master of Death (W'Soran), which were both decent. Unfortunately AoS killed off the Abhorash book, which would have been amazing (it wouldn't be possible to write a bad book about Abhorash!) From the End Times tie-in novels, he did the first (Return of Nagash) and last (The Lord of the End Times), both of which were good - though with usual End Times disclaimers (inclined to induce rage about the end of the old world, and having to skip over significant characters/places). He was also nice enough to answer lots of questions from fans about the fate of those omitted characters/places on a couple of sites until GW told him a few months later to stop doing so. I really enjoyed the blood of nagash books. I always thought they needed a third but didn't realise it actually did have one planned. In fact, most of the books written under the time of legends banner were pretty good. It also includes for me about the only book Gav Thorpe has written I actually really enjoyed (The Doom of Dragonback). That might be because it wasn't elf based though.
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Post by strutsagget on Apr 23, 2018 7:00:05 GMT
So for a person that has read a lot of fantasy but nothing regarding Warhammer except army books and rule books.
Is there a really good one or two I should read? Or is it better to read the more named fantasy writers?
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Post by grandmasterwang on Apr 23, 2018 8:29:44 GMT
So for a person that has read a lot of fantasy but nothing regarding Warhammer except army books and rule books. Is there a really good one or two I should read? Or is it better to read the more named fantasy writers? If you like Night Goblins then reading Skarsnik by Guy Haley is a must. I personally really recommend the Witchhunter trilogy (available in one book) by CL Werner as a thoroughly enjoyable book set in the Warhammer universe that does a good job of portraying empire, vampire counts, chaos and skaven.
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Post by sedge on Apr 23, 2018 11:00:08 GMT
So for a person that has read a lot of fantasy but nothing regarding Warhammer except army books and rule books. Is there a really good one or two I should read? Or is it better to read the more named fantasy writers? There's a good list of the warhammer novels here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warhammer_Fantasy_novelsI've read lots, though definitely not all of the books. They're a mixed bag, but some are really excellent and worth reading even if someone wasn't a warhammer fan. Usually the best place to start is with the books that deal with the races you're most interested in - which I think is Elves, for you (correct me if I'm wrong). Running through the elven books: Malus Darkblade - the Dark Elf books. While some of the fluff is little out of date by 8th standards, these books were massive in developing the Druchii character and setting. They drag occasionally in a few places, but overall are excellent and probably the best Elf-focused warhammer books, so this is what I'd recommend starting with. There's also the original comic book if that interests you. "Elves" by Graham McNeill, a trilogy. The first novel "Guardians of the Forest" is a Bretonnian knight who ends up in Athel Loren - it's a good one. The second two are High Elf focused (battle of Finuval Plain), and unremarkable. Gilead - I gave up partway through the first novel. It's one of the worst books I've ever had the misfortune to read. Orion Trilogy - I read the first, but didn't enjoy it that much, so haven't read the rest. I've heard others say they actually really enjoyed the series, though. Tyrion & Teclis - decent enough, but it's another focused on the events leading up to Finuval Plain, and your enjoyment will probably depend on how much you like the characters of Tyrion and Teclis. The Sundering - a wasted opportunity. It's the definitive history of the key part of Elven history, and Gav Thorpe has the knowledge of elves to write that... but he's widely regarded as one of the worst Black Library authors around. He's just not a natural writer, and his books are a slog to read. Worth reading regardless, but his writing is tiresome in places. War of Vengeance - dwarves vs high elves grudge match. The trilogy suffered from being passed between three different authors, and was never as good as it should have been. There are some really excellent non-elves books - unfortunately, I think the pointy ears got the short straw with warhammer novels when it comes to quality.
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Post by strutsagget on Apr 23, 2018 11:45:28 GMT
Thank you both I am thinking about all races. It's more important with good reading then specific race. As I also run warriors of chaos a lot. And also collecting empire and chaos dwarfs but they are yet to see their first matches.
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