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Post by knoffles on Nov 27, 2018 20:57:09 GMT
TMS have a KS going offering 3 starter sets: Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings and Bretonnians.
I don’t think they are new miniatures as at least with Bretonnians, most of them appear to already be for sale but they are selling them at a massive discount, so it appears well worth it if you were going to get any of their models anyway.
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Post by sedge on Nov 27, 2018 21:41:33 GMT
Does anyone have any experience of their models? They look very Mantic-esque in design quality.
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Nov 27, 2018 22:07:47 GMT
I was super excited for their Ushabti thanks to the concept art they did, but the actual models just didn't deliver. It's a nice discount, bu have to pass. Nothing they do really did it for me in actual execution after showing such promise with artwork.
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Post by DiscoQing on Nov 28, 2018 0:00:25 GMT
Does anyone have any experience of their models? They look very Mantic-esque in design quality. they look about 30 years behind. She ite.
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Post by strutsagget on Nov 28, 2018 7:09:29 GMT
Saw it and said directly not for me. Sculpts just wasn’t good enough/didn't like the style.
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Post by mottdon on Nov 28, 2018 14:00:32 GMT
Yeah, I have to agree, even though I really want someone to come out with a great alternative for TK and Brets, this just isn't very good. Many of the models remind me of the 90's sculpts, and with today's technology, there's really no excuse for that.
That mounted Bret Lady looks horrible. The pose is all wrong. If a horse was bucking like that, there's no way ANYONE would be casually reclining on it's back. The Ushabti simply have no sharpness to them and look cartoonish. That was the one unit that would've tempted me to back this project. I don't even want to talk about the VC. ALL of them are simply horrible.
This is one of the few times I actually WANT a Kickstarter campaign to fail. They really need to go back to their design board before releasing any models.
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Post by knoffles on Nov 28, 2018 19:00:22 GMT
Although I completely agree that the undead models are terrible and the bret’ mages mount is a stupid pose, I actually quite like the knights. They remind me of the original Bret models/crossed with the 3rd edition Empire knights (as well as the Perry’s war of the roses knights). In fairness they were 90’s models and so the nostalgia for that era is strong in this one, which is why I’m probably drawn to them
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Post by mottdon on Nov 28, 2018 19:28:25 GMT
I just wish we got an actual upgrade, rather than the same 'ole thing that we've been playing with since the 90's.
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Post by avatarofbugman on Nov 28, 2018 20:57:00 GMT
The knights are the only redeeming models. They look nice. The line as a whole suffers from being too "in-scale" proportion wise. When your proportions are more exaggerated in parts it actually allows for more paintable details. Although I completely agree that the undead models are terrible and the bret’ mages mount is a stupid pose, I actually quite like the knights. They remind me of the original Bret models/crossed with the 3rd edition Empire knights (as well as the Perry’s war of the roses knights). In fairness they were 90’s models and so the nostalgia for that era is strong in this one, which is why I’m probably drawn to them
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Nov 28, 2018 22:24:36 GMT
The undead stuff reminds me a lot of some of the Vor and Chronopia models with how chunky the detailing looks.
The knights aren't too bad, but they don't match how I see Bretonnians. They look a bit too historical/Empire knightish to me rather than Arthurian tapestry art.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Nov 28, 2018 22:37:29 GMT
They do look 'Mantic-ish'. The Ushabti and VC are terrible. The Ushabti are the worst I have seen and worse than Crocodile Games.
I don't mind the skeleton archers or tomb guard knockoff models.
They do have a certain goofy 90s ness to them which I don't mind.
The Bretonnian knights aren't the worst I've seen but I agree the mage is shocking.
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Post by gregr on Nov 29, 2018 16:48:43 GMT
Am I the only one who likes the Bret knights.....
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Nov 29, 2018 17:21:12 GMT
Am I the only one who likes the Bret knights..... I like the knights too. The rest.... not so much.
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Post by strutsagget on Nov 29, 2018 17:40:02 GMT
I found the knights to be the best ones in the set, but there is a lot of knights out there that I think is better sculpts.
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Post by knoffles on Nov 29, 2018 17:54:48 GMT
Am I the only one who likes the Bret knights..... nope, I like the knights a lot and it’s why I’ve gone in on the KS. They’ll go really well with the three 3rd ed. Empire knights I own.
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