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Post by tileag on Oct 5, 2020 14:12:03 GMT
Miasma to lower I, purple Sun to take them out
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Post by knoffles on Oct 7, 2020 13:00:35 GMT
So I asked Greg to decide on double Ghorgon or Minobus list and he picked the Minobus.
As such I’ve come up with another flawed list. I know it’s flawed but I couldn’t help chuckle as I wrote it.
I am toying with the idea of dropping 2 Minotaurs to free up some points. Sure it will remove a rank but they are basically ablative wounds anyway and having 4 will mean there is still a bit of redundancy. The saving will allow me to upgrade the shamans and add an additional Razorgor.
I’ll stick with the wargor bsb as I find S4 Gor is just essential.
Minobus Double Doom Beastmen
Doombull: heavy armour; shield; Sword of Swift Slaying; Ramhorn Helm; Gnarled Hide; Dawnstone 333
Doombull: Axes of Khorgor; Armour of Silvered Steel 320
Gorebull: shield; Armour of Destiny 214
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow; Shard of the Herdstone 125
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow; Dispel Scroll 100
48 Gors: Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 399
Tuskgor Chariot 80
Tuskgor Chariot 80
5 Ungor Raiders 30
5 Ungor Raiders 30
6 Minotaurs: great weapon 378
Razorgor 55
Razorgor 55
5 Harpies 55
5 Harpies 55
2,500 points
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Post by fantacap on Jan 25, 2021 14:50:43 GMT
So I asked Greg to decide on double Ghorgon or Minobus list and he picked the Minobus. As such I’ve come up with another flawed list. I know it’s flawed but I couldn’t help chuckle as I wrote it. I am toying with the idea of dropping 2 Minotaurs to free up some points. Sure it will remove a rank but they are basically ablative wounds anyway and having 4 will mean there is still a bit of redundancy. The saving will allow me to upgrade the shamans and add an additional Razorgor. I’ll stick with the wargor bsb as I find S4 Gor is just essential. Minobus Double DoomBeastmenDoombull: heavy armour; shield; Sword of Swift Slaying; Ramhorn Helm; Gnarled Hide; Dawnstone 333Doombull: Axes of Khorgor; Armour of Silvered Steel 320Gorebull: shield; Armour of Destiny 214Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow; Shard of the Herdstone 125Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow; Dispel Scroll 10048 Gors: Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 399Tuskgor Chariot 80Tuskgor Chariot 805 Ungor Raiders 305 Ungor Raiders 306 Minotaurs: great weapon 378Razorgor 55Razorgor 555 Harpies 555 Harpies 552,500 points
If the Minos are ablative wounds then have you tired putting the bulls in a deep ungor block? Has anyone ever tried sticking a GBS on a chariot with Amber spear / Ruby ring and the hunting spear? That seems like it could be some impressive firepower from range.
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Post by knoffles on Jan 25, 2021 14:59:00 GMT
If the Minos are ablative wounds then have you tired putting the bulls in a deep ungor block? Has anyone ever tried sticking a GBS on a chariot with Amber spear / Ruby ring and the hunting spear? That seems like it could be some impressive firepower from range. I've not tried the Mino's in an ungor block but know it's a valid tactic. The main reason i've not done it, is because i'm limited by the models I own and bar some raiders, I don't have any other ungor.
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Post by knoffles on Aug 28, 2021 16:07:53 GMT
A number of club mates have started to play smaller level games (1500-1800) to make players change up lists from the standard 2500 affairs and because it actually helps ensure games are finished!
One of them (Greg) has recently branched out from DE to VC and we’ve lined up a game. As normal I gave him a choice of what he’d like to face and he was happy with Beasts as he’d not played them before.
As ever I messed around with multiple lists before choosing this one. The core is pretty much the same as I always run (mainly due to a limitation on other models). I don’t have to sell the virtues of a horde of AHW Gor with the beast banner bsb embedded in it to the beast players, backed up by a couple of Tuskgor chariots.
The GBS is on my favoured lore of beasts and jagged dagger setup but I changed him up a bit to have the ruby ring rather than fencers blades. He will also go on the Gor to benefit from the juicy Str 5 attacks the bsb gives.
The Bestigor are in there for some reliability and the beastlord and standard will give the ever important LD10. His loadout is the mini Doombull one, though I gave him the steel claws as a first after watching a Triple Crown video. I was curious to see how it panned out.
The final entry was done Centigor, mainly to try them out as I’ve never actually found space for them before. The issue with this was it meant that I had to forgo any of my chaff options! No razorgor, harpies or raiders in this list... instead I’d have to rely on chariots and centigor for that. We’ll see how it goes.
1800 Beasts Beastmen
Beastlord: heavy armour; Ramhorn Helm; Dawnstone; Gnarled Hide; Uncanny Senses; The Steel-claws 251
Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; additional hand weapon; Talisman of Preservation; Ruby Ring of Ruin; Jagged Dagger 319
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
39 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 337
Tuskgor Chariot 80
Tuskgor Chariot 80
29 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 393
5 Centigors: Gorehoof; Musician 146
1,797 points
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 31, 2021 12:57:49 GMT
A number of club mates have started to play smaller level games (1500-1800) to make players change up lists from the standard 2500 affairs and because it actually helps ensure games are finished! One of them (Greg) has recently branched out from DE to VC and we’ve lined up a game. As normal I gave him a choice of what he’d like to face and he was happy with Beasts as he’d not played them before. As ever I messed around with multiple lists before choosing this one. The core is pretty much the same as I always run (mainly due to a limitation on other models). I don’t have to sell the virtues of a horde of AHW Gor with the beast banner bsb embedded in it to the beast players, backed up by a couple of Tuskgor chariots. The GBS is on my favoured lore of beasts and jagged dagger setup but I changed him up a bit to have the ruby ring rather than fencers blades. He will also go on the Gor to benefit from the juicy Str 5 attacks the bsb gives. The Bestigor are in there for some reliability and the beastlord and standard will give the ever important LD10. His loadout is the mini Doombull one, though I gave him the steel claws as a first after watching a Triple Crown video. I was curious to see how it panned out. The final entry was done Centigor, mainly to try them out as I’ve never actually found space for them before. The issue with this was it meant that I had to forgo any of my chaff options! No razorgor, harpies or raiders in this list... instead I’d have to rely on chariots and centigor for that. We’ll see how it goes. 1800 BeastsBeastmenBeastlord: heavy armour; Ramhorn Helm; Dawnstone; Gnarled Hide; Uncanny Senses; The Steel-claws 251Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; additional hand weapon; Talisman of Preservation; Ruby Ring of Ruin; Jagged Dagger 319Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 19139 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 337Tuskgor Chariot 80Tuskgor Chariot 8029 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 3935 Centigors: Gorehoof; Musician 1461,797 pointsTry it see if it works for you , I'm not sold on centigors ... to fragile for my liking and too over costed, just think for a few points more a unit of 3 razorgor... and they would have to do 4 wounds before you take a panic check!
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Post by beastyboy on Aug 31, 2021 15:52:13 GMT
+ Lords + Great Bray-Shaman: Additional Hand Weapon, Wizard Level 4 . . Magic Items: BRB - Dispel Scroll, BRB - Talisman of Preservation + Heroes + Wargor: Heavy Armour, Shield . . Battle Standard Bearer: Beastmen - The Beast Banner . . Magic Items: Gnarled Hide Core + Gor Herd: Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer . . 39x Gor: 39x Additional Hand Weapon Tuskgor Chariot Tuskgor Chariot Ungor Raiders: 5x Ungor Raiders: 5x Special + Bestigor Herd: 38x Bestigor . . Champion . . Musician . . Standard Bearer: BRB - Standard of Discipline Harpies (FAQ'ed): 5x Harpy Razorgor Herd: 3x Razorgor
Comes in at 1793
Has quite a punch for 1800 points to my mind .
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Post by knoffles on Aug 31, 2021 16:37:21 GMT
Yep that is a solid list.
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Post by knoffles on Feb 26, 2022 19:58:06 GMT
It’s been a while since I’ve posted any standard lists, mainly as blood bowl season is currently in full effect. This is me messing around with some different options in a list, mainly I wanted to field a double Cygor and a unit of Razorgor. It’s not meant to be the most optimised list and although the core is pretty much the same as what I normally field, I’m hoping it will be quite fun to use.
The Beastlord is decked out to be a bit of a jack of all trades. The ring is to help clear chaff. I fancied the blackened plate for once to give the unit some needed defence (even if it’s only vs flaming). He sports a reasonable 2+ save and puts out 5 AP attacks at i5 as standard and in the Gor they will be at Str 6 with a minus 4 to armour (something beasts often struggle with).
The great bray (the ever present Khazbar the Magnificent) will likewise be putting out between 3-5 attacks at i5 as standard. In the Gor they will be St5 and every kill will give him an extra power dice. He is, of course, on beasts as I love that lore in this army.
As for the rest, the bray shaman has the chalice, in order to give some initial turn protection to the army. He is on shadow as miasma will help support the Razorgors and will the range, means he has the option to hide with a unit of raiders at the back if wanted. The bsb is a bit vulnerable but good placement in the horde should mitigate the risk (and it’s worked for me in most games).
The cygors will move up and throw rocks and then charge in to support the chariots or 2 blocks, rather than just staying at the back.
Razorgor Herd 2 Beastmen
Beastlord: shield; Blackened Plate; Gnarled Hide; Gouge-tusks; Sword of Battle; Ruby Ring of Ruin 238
Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Talisman of Preservation; The Steel-claws; Jagged Dagger; Uncanny Senses 335
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Shadow; additional hand weapon; Chalice of Dark Rain 117
48 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 409
Tuskgor Chariot 80
Tuskgor Chariot 80
5 Ungor Raiders 30
5 Ungor Raiders 30
6 Razorgors 330
5 Harpies 55
5 Harpies 55
Cygor 275
Cygor 275
2,500 points
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Post by Crazy_Dokta on Feb 27, 2022 1:02:57 GMT
Hmm. You're trying to mix all kinds of fun. I consider "Herds of Pumbas" and "Cyclop/Ghorgon ×2" are different ones. I mean we should pick any one "fun-element", not both. We are already "hard-to-play" army. I prefer to field no more than 1/5 pts or so on "fun stuff" (second besti unit/monsters/minos). It's a too gamble othervise. I forget, you don't have some more ungors(-raiders), right? Perhaps should we take then more harpies and solo-pumbas? Let's say 3units each. Some about items. I'd like add more "defence and/or support" items rather than "killy-stuff" on chars. So, more wards, perhaps magic res. Claws? Fencers is more reliable (and just ad.hw is better if you want some more attacks). Since you take Ruby ring, perhaps it's better to take more "missiles" (+HagFetish). And of course, Herdstone is mandatory (I can't imagine list without it ) Edit: I'll add some stuff later. Also, since we don't have armour besides on some chars, perhaps we should take Rust totem? Anyway, have fun. (And we are waiting for reports ) [2495pts] Beastlord [245pts] Armour of Destiny, Obsidian Lodestone, Warrior Bane. Great Bray-Shaman [330pts] lv4, Shard of the Herdstone, Talisman of Preservation. Bray-Shaman [125pts] lv1, Dispel Scroll, Ruby Ring of Ruin. Bray-Shaman [120pts] lv1, Chalice of Dark Rain, Tormentor Sword. Wargor [162pts] BSB, Shield, Blackened Plate, Talisman of Endurance. Gor Herd [345pts] FCG, AHW, ×40 Gor Herd [70pts] ×10 Tuskgor Chariot [2×80pts] Ungor Raiders [2×30pts] 2×5 Harpies [3×55pts] 3×5 Razorgor Herd [3×55pts] 3×1 Cygor [2×275pts] (If we want Pumbas: drop the Cygors and take 2×6 pumba and 1 solo one instead)
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Post by knoffles on Mar 3, 2022 7:35:02 GMT
Thanks @crazydokta . The list is not meant to be particularly competitive, though I’ve tried to add synergies to it. I should have said that my likely opponent is great fun but I wanted to bring a softer, more experimental list, as he isn’t nearly as experienced and although I won’t voluntarily lose, as I think that’s not the right way to go, if he wins it won’t be a bad thing (as I’m not sure if he’s won a game of 8th yet at the club but he’s improving every game). I agree with a number of your points. I almost always have fencers blades on the great bray though someone I know, who used to play beasts years ago always swore on giving him the claws (I’m more of a fan of them on a Beastlord but I thought I’d try it). I took the ruby ring, again as something different. Normally this would go on a shaman as I’d prefer the Beastlord to have one function (beatstick!) but again it’s a bit thrown together and I felt my list was a bit chaff light for Beastmen so it’s another potential way to remove enemy chaff. I can’t get my head round the beastman missile. 5D6 Str 1 hits means almost always wounding on 6’s. It can be a lot of hits but it’s too random for me. I’ve only ever taken the herdstone a few times. I tend to avoid it as I’m stubborn and pigheaded at times and for ages I was told from loads of local players it had to be in a competitive list, so of course that meant I couldn’t take it 😂. My one limiting factor is my core (and I don’t mean the book limitations but my models!). I actually have quite limited options, in just an extra chariot and some more Gor. I really need to pick up some more raiders at some point!
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Post by grandmasterwang on Mar 7, 2022 15:08:22 GMT
I've enjoyed reading these lists.
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Post by knoffles on Mar 15, 2022 19:38:52 GMT
So I’ve got a game on Friday but against a different opponent and one of the group who likes to play 1500pts. I’ve persuaded him to bump it to 1800 as it gives me some practices for Riotville (not that this list is Riotville legal as the lord allowance is too high).
It’s a very standard (for me) list, just scaled down. No idea what I’ll be facing as like most of us, he has a variety of armies. I haven’t played him with beasts before and as about the only beasts player at the club for at least the last 10 years, there’s more than a good chance he hasn’t faced them in 8th. So I thought it might be fun for him.
The main change I’m thinking is to potentially drop the Dawnstone for the OTS.
Beasts - 1800 Mar22 Beastmen
Beastlord: heavy armour; shield; Ramhorn Helm; Gnarled Hide; Uncanny Senses; Sword of Battle; Dawnstone 234
Great Bray-Shaman: Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Beasts; Fencer's Blades; Talisman of Preservation; Jagged Dagger 325
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
38 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 329
Tuskgor Chariot 80
Tuskgor Chariot 80
29 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 393
Razorgor 55
Razorgor 55
5 Harpies 55
1,797 points
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Post by knoffles on Mar 15, 2022 20:33:59 GMT
And this is another ‘fun’ list I’m thinking of, this time totally Riotville legal. Forgoing any level 4, which as we know with Beastmen, can only end well 😂
Beasts - Riotville Beastmen
Beastlord: heavy armour; shield; Gnarled Hide; Ramhorn Helm; Sword of Battle; The Other Trickster's Shard; Uncanny Senses 224
Wargor: Battle Standard (The Beast Banner); heavy armour; shield 191
Bray-Shaman: Lore of Beasts; additional hand weapon; Dispel Scroll 102
38 Gors: Foe-render; Musician; Standard Bearer; additional hand weapon 329
Tuskgor Chariot 80
Tuskgor Chariot 80
29 Bestigors: Gouge-horn; Musician; Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline) 393
Razorgor Chariot 145
Razorgor 55
Razorgor 55
Razorgor Chariot 145
1,799 points
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Post by grandmasterwang on Mar 24, 2022 12:16:31 GMT
Why the Uncanny senses out of curiosity?
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