Predatory fighter and supporting attacks

Nice, thanks! Did not find it in my own search, but pretty nice to read how this thing was finally resolved.

I felt as if it always ended in a "well we will wait on the FAQ for a final decision". Now we know we will never get that, and that makes this forum pretty much the most high level confirmation anyone is going to get. 

While I agree that PF should not apply to supporting attacks, it's not that big a deal statistically*. If someone demands it be allowed, I'll not argue over it.

*Let's take the biggest unit you're every likely to see, a horde of 40 Saurus with spears. That's 51 attacks, presuming a champion is present. So if every model may make a PF attack on a 6, that's 8.5 extra attacks for the whole unit. Against a typical WS3 T3 5+ save unit, that's 4.25 hits, 2.8 wounds, 2.3 models killed. Annoying, yes but unlikely to be decisive in most circumstances.

I disagree.  I disagree strongly.  I disagree so strongly that I honestly want to make derogatory remarks concerning your intelligence.  There is absolutely NOTHING that supports your viewpoint.

Predatory Fighter says:
"Whenever a model with this special rule rolls a 6 To Hit in close combat, it immediately makes another Attack: roll To Hit and To Wound as normal.  Attacks generated by the Predatory Fighter special rule do not generate further Attacks.  In addition, a unit that contains one or more models with this special rule can only test to restrain pursuit if there is at least one Skink character model (Skink Chief or Skink Priest, including Tehenhauin, Tetto'eko and Tiktaq'to) within 6" of the unit."

Nothing about supporting attacks.

Devastating Charge says:
"Models with this special rule have +1 Attack during a turn in which they charge into combat."

Nothing about supporting attacks.

Extra Attack says:
"A model with this special rule (or who is attacking with a weapon that bestows this special rule) increases his Attacks value by 1.

Nothing about supporting attacks.

Random Attacks says:
"Models with the Random Attacks special rule do not have a normal number for their Attacks characteristic, but rather a dice roll, such as D3, D6 or D6+1. Each time a model with this special rule comes to strike blows, roll the indicated dice, adding any modifiers shown, to determine the number of attacks that the model will make, then roll to hit as normal.  If a unit contains more than one model with Random Attacks, roll separately for each model, unless specified otherwise."

Nothing about supporting attacks.

Supporting Attacks says:
"Warriors in the second rank do not sit idly by whilst their comrades battle away, but muster forward to strike blows of their own.  We refer to the attacks made by these models as supporting attacks.

A model can make a supporting attack if it is directly behind a friendly model that is itself fighting an enemy in base contact, as shown in the first diagram on the right.

Supporting attacks cannot be made to the side or rear.  Nor can they be made by models that are in base contact with enemies - they must fight the more immediate foe.

Of course, a warrior making a supporting attack is rather more constricted by the press of bodies than one who is face to face with his foe.  To represent this, he can only ever make a single Attack, regardless of the number of Attacks on his profile, or any bonus Attacks he might otherwise be entitled to because of special rules or other unusual effects. (emphasis mine)

Supporting attacks are made against models in base contact with the front rank model that is being fought 'through'.  If the front rank model is in base contact with two or more enemies with different profiles, the attacking player can choose which model to direct the supporting attack against (before dice are rolled)."

How can the emphasized portion be unclear?  Warhammer has a lot of hazy rules, that can easily be interpreted incorrectly.  Supporting Attacks is not one.  None of the other special rules that give models extra attack mention Supporting Attacks, because it isn't needed, since it is specifically written out in the Supporting Attacks rule.  Do you incorrectly state that Witch Elves in the 2nd rank make 3 Supporting Attacks?  Why not?  The have a special rule that gives them Extra Attacks, and that special rule doesn't mention Supporting Attacks at all.

There are three reasons why a player gets a rule wrong.  Ignorance, forgetfulness, and deliberately.  Those first two are forgivable, go away with experience with the game, and don't apply in your case.  The last one means you are cheating.

I read your position. It’s based on saying that Predatory Fighter says “additional attack” instead of +1 attack and that conflicts between special rules has the Army Book trump the Rulebook. Still wrong.

As a lizardmen player, I find it quite straight forward. In particular, there ware two words in the "supporting Attacks" rules that really make the difference. First the addition of the word "ever". Ever is pretty definitive. It reads as no matter what, you can never ever add extra attacks to the supporting attacks,.

And then the inclusion of the part that speaks to "special rules". PF is a special rule, and therefore eliminates the potential of any sort of question.

In the end, it's up to each person in the their gaming group. But I wouldn't allow for this if I were to play against Lizardmen. I assume, as I've said in the past with an example, the same player requesting this would allow, for example, Tomb Kings to make additinoal attacks with "Righteous Smiting" on them, and the like.