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Post by mottdon on Jan 17, 2019 19:19:08 GMT
Does anyone remember their first ever 8th edition games? If you do, list a short recap here.
Mine was my Empire against a Vampire Count army, something around 1000 points. This was JUST after 8th edition had been released, so lots of gamers were still learning the rules. It was at a local gaming store not far from my house and, while I had read the books, my knowledge of exactly how these games went was severely limited. I know now that I should have called foul because he only took two units, one of around 30 Ghouls with a Vampire caster in them, and another of around 40 Ghouls with a Vampire Lord in them. Being my first game, I was wanting to try out various units, just to see what did what. I think I took a Cannon, Captain, two Wizards (Metal and Fire), some Spearmen (I don't remember exact numbers, but I'm sure it what something around 20 in a unit), Handgunners, and a few Greatswords (Probably 16, since that was all that I had at that time - Teutogen Guard models).
While I didn't expect to win, I wasn't expecting to be wiped out so completely. Every Ghoul I'd pick off with shooting was immediately resurrected in the following magic phase. (This is when I learned the significance of taking a level 4 caster.) He simply came straight at me and tore me up when he got there. I saw the advantage of taking so many models in one unit and when I went home, I started putting together more Spearmen to flesh out my units. It was a simple game that was over quickly but taught me much. I quickly caught the fever after that game.
What's your story?
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Post by sedge on Jan 17, 2019 19:39:13 GMT
Excluding the very brief demo game I had at Games Workshop Kensington with some Island of Blood models, my first game was also my worst! It was at the same GW store once I'd got a bit of a Dark Elf force together, and was against a staffer there. My list was this one (Druchii.net) and I'd expected that as the staff there knew this was my very first game, they'd go easy on me... instead I faced against a hyper-competitive chap with a nasty Ogre Kingdoms featuring Mournfangs, a pair of redirecting Sabretusks, Gnoblar Trappers, Leadbelchers and an Ogre unit joined by a wizard somehow toting both the Hellheart and a Dispel Scroll. You know, pretty close to as nasty a list as you can make with 1,000 points of Ogres, plus illegal. My Master + Corsairs bounced off the Ogre unit because he managed to "Dispel Scroll" Mindrazor. The Cold One Knights made it through a unit of Leadbelchers plus the Gnoblars (losing one or two to the trappers in the process) but actually did okay. The handbow Corsairs got obliterated by the Mournfangs, who then made it into the Crossbows/Sorceress unit and obliterated that. Somewhere along the line he "popped" his Hellheart, which thankfully did nothing. Afterwards, I went and ordered some Harpies and Shades, having seen how useful the Sabretusks were at redirecting. I should have bought a trio of Hydras, and screwed him over in a rematch, but oh well. Thankfully a much more local GW store opened in Putney just after that, which I chose to frequent instead. I never gamed in the Kensington one again.
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Post by gangland on Jan 17, 2019 20:36:53 GMT
My friend and I trying to play Island of Blood while we were both 100% new. I was Elves he was Skaven and boy did we get a lot wrong.
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Post by sedge on Jan 17, 2019 20:47:00 GMT
My friend and I trying to play Island of Blood while we were both 100% new. I was Elves he was Skaven and boy did we get a lot wrong. Island of Blood surprised me when I first got it, as it didn't have any profiles for the models that came with it - how were you supposed to play! I think GW realised that and had a pdf of the basic IoB units' profiles on their site at some point, but while the models were gorgeous, I don't think the IoB box did a good job of introducing you to playing Warhammer Fantasy.
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Post by gangland on Jan 18, 2019 2:26:40 GMT
Yeah it was pretty overwhelming. We got the stats online as you mentioned but there wasn’t really a intro scenario. My friend I played with pretty much gave up trying to learn the rules and it was kinda much to learn them all myself and be able to teach someone so I stopped bringing them and just painted them for awhile. Eventually my friend got battle for Skull pass and started actually learning the game (though I suspect his other friend did most of the work heh). I got the army books for Skaven and High Elves pretty quickly which helped, and since all 3 of us had a basis learning the rules went much smoother though we still aren’t perfect. I did get my IoB set for $80 though so I can’t complain too much.
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Post by saniles on Jan 18, 2019 9:49:44 GMT
Yes. Myself and copperpotmd bought the IOB set together and he wrecked me with those high elves. The unit quality comparison was just not there lol.
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Post by Horace on Jan 18, 2019 10:49:16 GMT
My first 8th game was probably against my ex using Orcs & Goblins or Dwarfs against High Elves. It was a quick run through to teach her rules. She later got together a Daemons army which routinely pummeled me into the ground since 7th edition Daemons book playing 8th was truly hideous. I just could not cope with the fully tooled Keeper of Secrets.
I was already familiar with the rules for 8th since I had played going back to 4th/5th edition. My first game of that would also be Orcs & Goblins vs High Elves, against my brother played on the carpet. The first Xmas where I got all the stuff saw my army made up of the 4th edition starter (monopose Goblin spearmen/archers), Skarsnik, Orc Shaman on Wyvern and a few squig based units. I think I lost this too because he Teclis-ed me to death
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Post by mottdon on Jan 18, 2019 13:29:52 GMT
Lol, that sounds like a great start of a tradition! Every "first game" of any edition should be O&G vs HE for you from now on, Horace!
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Post by DiscoQing on Jan 18, 2019 13:45:03 GMT
My first game of 8th was also the first game I had played for about a year or 2. I played (7th ed) DoC vs. Orcs, and I basically thought monsters were meant to be amazing now. I kept thinking my LoC was meant to be tearing through units... And he didn't. I think he died to about 20 orc big'uns. I think I was rolling 1 for each Thunderstomp, lol. But back then we all basically just played with whatever we had just bought (and maybe painted). Nowadays, I won't play with anything unpainted and "know what I'm talking about" - at least more than I did 10 years ago
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Post by mottdon on Jan 18, 2019 13:51:45 GMT
Lol, I love all those "forgotten" rules! When you look back, you're always like, "How the heck did I miss that!" And in the very next game, you forget something basic, like "I completely forgot my Shooting Phase that turn!" Lol!
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Post by DiscoQing on Jan 18, 2019 13:58:40 GMT
Haha - yeah, that is what made the game great for me lol.
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Post by gangland on Jan 18, 2019 15:10:38 GMT
Yes. Myself and copperpotmd bought the IOB set together and he wrecked me with those high elves. The unit quality comparison was just not there lol. Yeah once I got the army books we took out the prince on griffin and made proper 500pt lists. I actually ended up playing Skaven most of the time and was able to win most games. I’ve doubled and added to both armies since then of course. Still a long way to go with building and painted, I have many boxes for both sitting in shrink wrap in my closet pile of shame heh. It’s a slow but moving process as this is not my main hobby and typically my Warhammer time goes to playing rather than a days worth of building and painting goals.
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Post by askaval30 on Jan 18, 2019 15:44:01 GMT
brilliant topic!
My friend and I had spent our youth salivating over the concept of massed fantasy battles... ogling the pretty pictures since we had no income whatsoever to indulge in it.
Fast forward 10 years later: We both have 2000 point armies of Dwarfs and Chaos Warriors, painstakingly built and painted over the course of years.
We finally take the plunge by walking into a GW store, 8th was freshly out and we had pored long and hard over the rules... We met a veteran player who offered us a "relaxed" intro game... our two 2000 point armies against his 4000 Daemons of chaos army. you can see where this is going...
We were thoroughly annihilated, But overall it lelt great memories: the doomed charge of his slayer block against the massed fire of his flamers of Tzeentch, or my Sorc Lord failing a terror test against his Lord of Change I had unwisely charged... amusingly our first 8th edition game used 6th and 7th edition armybooks!
Good times...
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Post by saniles on Jan 18, 2019 16:26:55 GMT
Yes. Myself and copperpotmd bought the IOB set together and he wrecked me with those high elves. The unit quality comparison was just not there lol. Yeah once I got the army books we took out the prince on griffin and made proper 500pt lists. I actually ended up playing Skaven most of the time and was able to win most games. I’ve doubled and added to both armies since then of course. Still a long way to go with building and painted, I have many boxes for both sitting in shrink wrap in my closet pile of shame heh. It’s a slow but moving process as this is not my main hobby and typically my Warhammer time goes to playing rather than a days worth of building and painting goals. Don’t even talk to me about a pile of shame. I have dozens of boxes unopened just waiting for me to have space and time lol
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Post by knoffles on Jan 18, 2019 18:36:28 GMT
My first game of 8th was a reintroduction to the hobby after around a 8 year hiatus (what can I say partying and pc gaming had taken over). I’d found a new club and my newly bought dwarves took the field against one of the most experienced players and his Lizardmen (he is always in the top spots for WFB, 40k and KOW). I’m ashamed to say I remember very little of the game detail except that I immediately fell back in love with the tabletop game. Very shortly I had spent a shed load more money and cracked on with the task of painting them!
The return was somewhat different from when I first played in 3rd edition, when my first game involved playing on the carpet against a friend, using Britain’s Farm (farm toys) trees and hedges for scenery and armies made up of cut out bits of paper. It’s worth noting that the 3rd edition rulebook actually provided two armies printed on paper (Orcs and elves), that you could cut out of the back of the book. The cut outs corresponded to to base size of models, so for instance I had 5 bits of paper, 25mm by 50mm with pictures of wolf riders on them. I still have them today in a box and it cemented my love of Orcs and Goblins (which became my primary army up till the end of 5th ed, though even at that age you ended up with multiple armies).
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