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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Jul 24, 2023 22:16:07 GMT
I didn't see High Elf Spearmen, and have therefore decided they must have a replacement kit made. Or they're canned and we just have Lothern Sea Guard. Interesting, I wonder if because High Elves are abroad in the Old World that the citizen levies of Ulthuan would stay home, and the Lothern Sea Guard would become more prominent. I'd much rather they make a replacement kit for those old spearmen though. I also find the new advance/retreat concept interesting. I hope it goes a ways to help alleviate certain armies (Skaven, I'm looking at you) needing to field such massive amounts of rank and file to keep from just evaporating in a bad turn of combat.
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Post by chronicallychaotic66 on Jul 25, 2023 0:12:15 GMT
Losing units being pushed back is a throwback to 3rd ed IIRC.
Intrigued that the chariots seem to still be on 50x100 bases and the trolls on 40mm squares.
Taking a wait and see approach to the rules until we see the full package.
But disappointed about the reappearance of some of those old models. I love those slayers - I’ve got a bunch of them. Wouldn’t mind a nice new plastic kit that’s not lame fyreslayers though.
Happy to see the dwarf miners and HE chariot back.
Anyone who has paid £100 plus for a skycutter over the last few years will be kicking themselves. At least until they see the new GW rrp…
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Post by sedge on Jul 25, 2023 6:47:08 GMT
Yes it will be hilarious if they start selling those slayers again! That said they are timeless models in my opinion. Still it's nice to see armies other than Brets and TKs displayed. Models wise I guess the rest of us will have to wait.. Not sure why seeing "old" models is bad. I greatly prefer old models -- metals from 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th editions are the best. Out of everything pictured in today's update those classic metal Dwarf Slayers are probably my favorate. Serious question: Why do so many gamers always want "old" models replaced? Bad models should be replaced, for sure. But when it comes to Warhammer models, old does not automatically mean bad. Classic GW models often had loads of "character" to them - and some of the newer plastic kits lost that. But everyone has their own preference for aesthetics of models, and I find a lot of older ones "goofy" looking, and nowhere near the standards of modern plastics, and that tends to be a common view. The Slayers fit into that category for me - they're nowhere close to the plastic Slayer character that was released in 8th, or the Forge World one that came out for Blackfire Pass. Plus plastic is a far nicer material to work with, easier to assemble, allows for more variety, is easier to convert, and also doesn't chip paint whenever a top heavy BSB falls over on the gaming table.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jul 25, 2023 8:43:02 GMT
The new rules mentioned so far certainly look interesting, and I for one am thoroughly pleased to see all the old models back, a lot of them have a lot more poseability than current-era GW display pieces, and still look fine to this day. Plus it may mean that they'll be more affordably priced (though this is GW we're talking about here, stupidity in the name of corporate greed is their middle name).
Still no release date though or word of when the next article will come round... I wish GW would stop screwing around with pointless Legions Imperialis bullshit and focus on TOW, this is the 40th anniversary year of Warhammer Fantasy after all and this was meant to be the time it was to be released. Legions Imperialis can be released any time (plus nobody gives a toss about it apart from GW, HH has nowhere near the popularity of mainstream 40K, or even Warhammer Fantasy I'd wager).
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Post by karnus on Jul 25, 2023 11:11:53 GMT
While there is very little detail, I got a stab of excitement reading through that, which can only be a good thing.
I don’t know why people are moaning about the lack of new models, it wouldn’t be the old world without classic models.
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Post by sedge on Jul 25, 2023 11:52:30 GMT
While there is very little detail, I got a stab of excitement reading through that, which can only be a good thing. I don’t know why people are moaning about the lack of new models, it wouldn’t be the old world without classic models. Of course (some) old models coming back is great, but the game won't survive and prosper without new models. GW make most their money from kits when they're newly released, tapering off significantly after that first rush. Sure, bringing back old kits will get some higher sales temporarily, but not to the same extent as good new kits. For The Old World to get continued support, it needs to be a financial success for GW, and that means new models. I'm sure there will be a good quantity of new models, I was mainly surprised to see several units of old models that I assumed would be first in line for replacements.
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Post by bastardfromhell on Jul 25, 2023 13:08:44 GMT
Great news so far. Even if the game system could be bad, we get a second chance to buy models which are long oop. However, the approach to play several old editions to cherry pick the rules from is promissing. And from the article they seem to be passionate about it. Also did you guys notice the classic Fortress Walls in one of the pictures? I hope they re-release old terrain sets. Still need a Citadel forest or two.
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Post by simon on Jul 25, 2023 13:45:49 GMT
Classic GW models often had loads of "character" to them - and some of the newer plastic kits lost that. But everyone has their own preference for aesthetics of models, and I find a lot of older ones "goofy" looking, and nowhere near the standards of modern plastics, and that tends to be a common view. The Slayers fit into that category for me - they're nowhere close to the plastic Slayer character that was released in 8th, or the Forge World one that came out for Blackfire Pass. Plus plastic is a far nicer material to work with, easier to assemble, allows for more variety, is easier to convert, and also doesn't chip paint whenever a top heavy BSB falls over on the gaming table. Yes youre right it's a personal preference. In my view the metal slayers are head and shoulders above that plastic slayer character and the AoS slayers. The plastic gotrek had a nice pose but even that doesn't come close to the metal ones. The goofiness of the old models is great because you can see their facial expressions; theyre such a joy to paint. But of course I agree plastic is an easier material to work with. The only upside of metal is that they are mostly one piece sculpts so you don't have to assemble them anyway. Just the thought of all those sprues and arms and legs and heads arrghh!
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Post by johngg on Jul 25, 2023 14:40:37 GMT
I think we can ALL agree that.. We LIKE == The old Salyer models We DONT Like == Slayers without ORANGE hair!
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Post by karnus on Jul 25, 2023 14:41:04 GMT
While there is very little detail, I got a stab of excitement reading through that, which can only be a good thing. I don’t know why people are moaning about the lack of new models, it wouldn’t be the old world without classic models. Of course (some) old models coming back is great, but the game won't survive and prosper without new models. GW make most their money from kits when they're newly released, tapering off significantly after that first rush. Sure, bringing back old kits will get some higher sales temporarily, but not to the same extent as good new kits. For The Old World to get continued support, it needs to be a financial success for GW, and that means new models. I'm sure there will be a good quantity of new models, I was mainly surprised to see several units of old models that I assumed would be first in line for replacements. I could be waaaaay off, but in my mind there’s a lot of people out there with square based models, and even entire armies sitting in shelves or playing other games systems that GW no longer support and they want their piece of the pie back. (Not that they need anymore the fat fuckers). I don’t know how I would feel if every single unit got updated and the stuff I had felt out of date after waiting for so long, it might be then trying not to alienate the veteran player who’s had his army sat on his shelf for the past 10 years. Then again maybe there’s not enough players like that to make a difference to them, it would be interesting to see the numbers.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jul 25, 2023 16:08:56 GMT
Great news so far. Even if the game system could be bad, we get a second chance to buy models which are long oop. However, the approach to play several old editions to cherry pick the rules from is promissing. And from the article they seem to be passionate about it. Also did you guys notice the classic Fortress Walls in one of the pictures? I hope they re-release old terrain sets. Still need a Citadel forest or two. Yes indeed, I saw the return of the Warhammer Fortress plus you can clearly see the Citadel Hills, the Watchtower and the Chapel as well, both in this most recent article and I believe the previous one where they first showed a few shots of some of the old models coming back. It'd be great if GW brought back all the plastic Fantasy terrain, plus I'd like to see some new plastic terrain for non-Imperial factions... the only thing wrong with the majority of the old terrain was that it was Empire-focussed. I'd love to see a Dwarf forge or brewery, a Greenskin barricade or hut, or a Tomb King temple appear in plastic kit form.
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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Jul 27, 2023 0:16:33 GMT
Yes indeed, I saw the return of the Warhammer Fortress plus you can clearly see the Citadel Hills, the Watchtower and the Chapel as well, both in this most recent article and I believe the previous one where they first showed a few shots of some of the old models coming back. It'd be great if GW brought back all the plastic Fantasy terrain, plus I'd like to see some new plastic terrain for non-Imperial factions... the only thing wrong with the majority of the old terrain was that it was Empire-focussed. I'd love to see a Dwarf forge or brewery, a Greenskin barricade or hut, or a Tomb King temple appear in plastic kit form. Hear hear! I'd love for those old terrain kits to come back in addition to non-Empire stuff. A High Elf tower or obelisk, some Tomb King statues and effigies, and I hope there are rules for the Skaven gnaw-holes from AOS.
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Post by johngg on Aug 2, 2023 13:29:01 GMT
I spotted these on Grees Stuffs Worlds Insta feed, someone may know something.. <side eyes emoji>
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Post by karnus on Aug 2, 2023 14:15:40 GMT
I wish they’d tell us the basing so I could crack on with my army project
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Post by johngg on Aug 2, 2023 14:18:10 GMT
I wish they’d tell us the basing so I could crack on with my army project I sooo much agree
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