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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 23, 2023 22:54:46 GMT
My money's on seeing the leaked Pegasus and maybe a single Khemrian model since they've been all about doing pairs.
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Post by a human on Aug 24, 2023 14:07:23 GMT
 We should have top billing. weird that epic isn't on there so may be top billing of non-mainline games |
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Post by lordofskullpass on Aug 24, 2023 15:31:29 GMT
We should have top billing. weird that epic isn't on there so may be top billing of non-mainline games The impending Hindenburg disaster that is Legions Imperialis will be classed as Horus Heresy. You can be sure that the Horus Heresy stuff they preview will be that. |
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 24, 2023 17:52:45 GMT
Valrak is saying October release with a Bretonnian force box and a Tomb King force box instead of a combined release box.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Aug 25, 2023 7:41:29 GMT
Valrak is saying October release with a Bretonnian force box and a Tomb King force box instead of a combined release box. Well that certainly is a cheaper way of doing it (especially for players who want just one of those two factions). And I sincerely hope he's right in the October prediction! |
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Post by Luigino on Aug 25, 2023 11:38:22 GMT
Given the current trend it's probably going to cost more than what a combine set would cost.
So no, it's not going to be cheaper.
Hopefully though the enthusiasm for the game will flood the secondary market with plastic kits making the re released minis somewhat more reasonable in price
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Post by thegoat on Aug 25, 2023 11:40:37 GMT
Valrak is saying October release with a Bretonnian force box and a Tomb King force box instead of a combined release box. If that is true, I am worried GW just going to dump the WH:TOW products they have already manufactured into the market. Then stop supporting the game. A summer release with a big launch box would show GW is committed to supporting the game. |
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Post by lordofskullpass on Aug 25, 2023 13:04:31 GMT
Given the current trend it's probably going to cost more than what a combine set would cost. So no, it's not going to be cheaper. Hopefully though the enthusiasm for the game will flood the secondary market with plastic kits making the re released minis somewhat more reasonable in price. On the contrary, combined starter sets are nearly £200 now, whereas one-faction boxes are around £80-90 for AoS and 40K. Still too expensive in my eyes, but at least in the case of those who want only one of the two factions, it's still significantly cheaper. Not to mention I personally am more interested in individual units which will be cheaper still. The days of me buying an army box are long behind me with GW's new perceived price targets and the removal of first the old Battalion/Battleforce boxes and later the Start Collecting boxes. |
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Post by Luigino on Aug 25, 2023 13:18:31 GMT
On the contrary, combined starter sets are nearly £200 now WOW! Absolutely insane  This just goes to show how removed I am from GW (the last thing I bought new as the 8th edition rulebook) |
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 25, 2023 15:12:44 GMT
Valrak is saying October release with a Bretonnian force box and a Tomb King force box instead of a combined release box. If that is true, I am worried GW just going to dump the WH:TOW products they have already manufactured into the market. Then stop supporting the game. A summer release with a big launch box would show GW is committed to supporting the game. Recent history shows Big Launch Boxes without terrain works for 40K but less so for other systems(see: The massive stock stores were stuck with for Dominion and easy availability of the recent MESBG and Age of Darkness sets). They've also said they're amenable to eventually doing a combined box for the system, so this very much feels like a better way to test the actual desire for the product(especially since it's the two most lamented factions to not cross into AoS). They've also already said this is going to be done like Horus Heresy, so a very front heavy release with fewer later mainstream GW releases but a lot of smaller FW drops is more what people should have for expectations to begin with. |
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Post by thegoat on Aug 25, 2023 15:35:37 GMT
If that is true, I am worried GW just going to dump the WH:TOW products they have already manufactured into the market. Then stop supporting the game. A summer release with a big launch box would show GW is committed to supporting the game. ... They've also already said this is going to be done like Horus Heresy, so a very front heavy release with fewer later mainstream GW releases but a lot of smaller FW drops is more what people should have for expectations to begin with. I don't follow your logic. People reference WH:TOW being treated like the Horus Heresy game. Then they say WH:TOW will not get a lot of support. But Horus Heresy has received a ton of new plastic kits over the last couple years. New marine troops of every armor variant. Upgrade kits with every weapon option in the game. Characters up the wazoo. Tank after tank in plastic. Terminators, jet bikes, dreadnoughts, ets. all in plastic. If WH:TOW gets a similar number of new kits released I'll be ecstatic. |
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 25, 2023 22:24:54 GMT
New marine troops of every armor variant. Neither those nor the Terminators are new, they're repacks of old kits(just like we're getting with TOW). Only the MkVI is new.
In fact, the lack of plastic infantry units, especially assault marines and Despoilers, too many tanks, and no plastic character releases beyond the pre-existing named characters and the two characters from the launch box(note I mentioned the resin releases) are HUGE complaints in the Heresy community.
And while there are a lot of plastic tanks(most of which are the same 3 kits with different accessory sprues) and 2 dreadnoughts, the vast majority of them were released in the first 6 months then very slow trickles since then, hence the "front loaded release" comment.
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Aug 25, 2023 22:31:32 GMT
Hell, it's almost a year since release and we've only just seen renders for the promised Assault Marines. If it takes TOW over a year to get out literally CORE UNITS like Heresy, it's not going to last nearly as long as Heresy has.
Hell, that's part of the comparison for Heresy is because it's more for older grognards with existing armies than it is for new blood.
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Post by thegoat on Aug 25, 2023 22:48:29 GMT
New marine troops of every armor variant. Neither those nor the Terminators are new, they're repacks of old kits(just like we're getting with TOW). Only the MkVI is new.
In fact, the lack of plastic infantry units, especially assault marines and Despoilers, too many tanks, and no plastic character releases beyond the pre-existing named characters and the two characters from the launch box(note I mentioned the resin releases) are HUGE complaints in the Heresy community.
And while there are a lot of plastic tanks and dreadnoughts, the vast majority of them were released in the first 6 months then very slow trickles since then, hence the "front loaded release" comment.
I wasn't aware of any plastic horus heresy kits until the most recent edition launched. Maybe I was fooled by some old kits being repacked. I see a bunch of plastic horus heresy characters on the GW store. If they are named characters, they look generic enough to use as vanilla characters, to me. End of the day I still say horus heresy is getting ample support from GW. If WH:TOW gets simular support, I'll be happy. |
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Post by a human on Aug 26, 2023 0:10:51 GMT
If that is true, I am worried GW just going to dump the WH:TOW products they have already manufactured into the market. Then stop supporting the game. A summer release with a big launch box would show GW is committed to supporting the game. Recent history shows Big Launch Boxes without terrain works for 40K but less so for other systems(see: The massive stock stores were stuck with for Dominion and easy availability of the recent MESBG and Age of Darkness sets). They've also said they're amenable to eventually doing a combined box for the system, so this very much feels like a better way to test the actual desire for the product(especially since it's the two most lamented factions to not cross into AoS). They've also already said this is going to be done like Horus Heresy, so a very front heavy release with fewer later mainstream GW releases but a lot of smaller FW drops is more what people should have for expectations to begin with. even the leviathan box for 40k i have seen multiple irl stores with 3+ copies |
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