Post by FvonSigmaringen on Dec 2, 2022 12:33:52 GMT
Well, it is similar to the General, BSB and highest leadership. Choosing the Hierophant is part of building your Army List, and you must provide a legal list. The two rules conflict, but that conflict can be easily avoided by not building an AL with both Arkhan and Khatep. However, others may disagree on RAI grounds, just like they do with the General-BSB issue (for which they have at least the unofficial support of Mat Ward.)
Post by baaderthegreat on Dec 2, 2022 13:08:08 GMT
It depends on the wording, doesn't it? If it says: "X (for example, the BSB) cannot be the general", it's open to interpretation. But if it says "The BSB cannot be the general, even if the BSB has the highest leadership", the sentence describes a situation where the BSB *can* be the army's model with the highest leadership (and still won't be the general).
It's how Bret players can take a Bret lord on a Hippogryph (not a strong choice). As Bret Lords have the Highest Ld, if they take the Virtue of Ideal, it gives some stat boosts and a debuff, but crucially the virtue means you cannot be the General 😍
I'd play it as you get to choose which one is the heirophant, however hitting more caveats Khatep should be the heirophant, as it says he must be it. Arkhan says "if".
Post by FvonSigmaringen on Dec 2, 2022 14:48:31 GMT
RAW, you simply cannot take both, just like you cannot take a lvl 1 Liche Priest with the Lore of Nehekhara as Hierophant together with a higher level Priest with another Lore. If you invoke a perceived RAI (the "even if") to take both, Khatep must be the Hierophant: you certainly do not get to choose.
Even if Khatep was a Level 1, simply, as per the rules: Khatep must be the Heirophant (Grand Heirophant of Khemri).
This special character's rule overrides the usual caveats for choosing the Heirophant.
It's actually covered in the BRB (page 11):
"BASIC VERSUS ADVANCED
Where rules apply to a specific model, they always override any contradicting basic rules. For example, the basic rules state that a model must take Panic test under certain situations. If, however, that model has a rule that makes it immune to Panic, then it does not test for Panic — the advanced rule takes precedence."
In this case the rules for the selection of a Hierophant (as part of the TK army special rules section) is clearly the basic rule, and Khatep's special character rule (which applies to a specific model) is the advanced one. Consequently, The Grand Hierophant of Khemri special rule, "If you take Grand Hierophant Khatep, he must be your army's Hierophant", overrules the wizard level requirement for Hierophant selection.