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Post by markdienekes on Mar 2, 2023 23:53:37 GMT
I work at units and usually paint the models individually. I'm not a good or fast painter, but I've still got a lot done since joining here. Posting my progress here and the kind comments and advice of the members have kept me at it, and the fact it is lovely to see an army you painted taking shape and ready to fight a battle. Keep everything packed away save the unit you want to paint, and get through that, one at a time. 
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Post by wundapantz on Mar 3, 2023 0:08:37 GMT
It really is a case of "how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time"
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Post by thegoat on Mar 3, 2023 0:43:21 GMT
I think most members here are of the same mindset. But it is really important to have the discipline to only play with fully painted and based models.
Once you make an exception and allow bare metal or plastic into your games, there is much less incentive to get stuff painted.
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Mar 3, 2023 16:54:48 GMT
I work at units and usually paint the models individually. I'm not a good or fast painter, but I've still got a lot done since joining here. Posting my progress here and the kind comments and advice of the members have kept me at it, and the fact it is lovely to see an army you painted taking shape and ready to fight a battle. Keep everything packed away save the unit you want to paint, and get through that, one at a time.  I beg to differ, your stuff looks great. 
You seem to have discipline too, which is a great thing!
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Post by markdienekes on Mar 3, 2023 23:43:11 GMT
I work at units and usually paint the models individually. I'm not a good or fast painter, but I've still got a lot done since joining here. Posting my progress here and the kind comments and advice of the members have kept me at it, and the fact it is lovely to see an army you painted taking shape and ready to fight a battle. Keep everything packed away save the unit you want to paint, and get through that, one at a time.  I beg to differ, your stuff looks great. 
You seem to have discipline too, which is a great thing!
Thanks mate, I'm happy with them, and they do look awesome on the table!
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Post by glocks4interns on Mar 8, 2023 16:59:11 GMT
This is more geared towards modelling and painting but wanted discuss generally as I feel utterly swamped and want to express my feelings in some way. I’m sitting on just under 10k points of Bretonnians. 9,367 not including unit upgrades, banners musicians champs etc just raw models. I’ve started restoration but most of it still needs stripping. But my god do I feel so overwhelmed and in two minds to keep it all or just set out a decent list and stick with that cast off the rest. I love my Brets models and lore both 5th and 6th Ed Just can’t decide how or where to start many times I’ve laid it out looked at everything then tidied back into boxes. How do you keep yourself up for the challenge? Break it down into smaller armies and focus on a 1000pts at a time? a unit then a hero choice as a reward? I understand ultimately it’s down to me and my choices but would like to hear other people trials and tribulations or secrets for success either way. For the lady! Specifically for this I think you have to set manageable goals. Stripping and repainting 10k of brets is an insane undertaking. I'm currently painting up my dwarves and I've got 6-7k of them, and was planning to paint all of them in one go. But I realized about 1000 models in, I don't actually need 6-7k of dwarves painted right now, so I made a list of about 4k, I'm going to paint them up, and as I want to play with more units I'll paint them. Makes the goal much more manageable and avoids burnout down the road. With your Bret project, break it into chunks, decide on a list you want to run, work toward that, play a game, then decide what to work on next.
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Post by Luigino on Mar 8, 2023 17:01:46 GMT
I'm currently in a very similar situation to yours. And breaking down larger projects into achievable goals is definitely the way to go
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Post by tofukyo on Mar 19, 2023 20:22:51 GMT
Thanks for all the replies and ideas on how to tackle this, I've gone through all suggestions and will attempt to amalgamate a few options so many good ideas hopefully I can drag myself out of drowning in models and get something done before I get depressed about it and sling it all :/
I try to stick with a unit until it is complete. I'll paint the ranks in batches. Five or six models is a good batch size for me. For Bretonnians, this could be translated into "one knight a week", and you could sprinkle some foot dudes in to taste. This seems fairly do-able and I may combine this with thegoats comment, maybe one knight 5 archers/men at arms then back to a knight again rinse and repeat.
Have you tried putting it all away, apart from a list you want to paint towards. I have recently just done this based on this, i had literally everything bar a few boxed items out on a desk for about 2 months and i'd sit down and end up just looking at it and sod off again
Bro it’s times like this u don’t need motivation, u need DISCIPLINE! Srsly. With the points already highlighted above, I hope to do just this and set aside some hobby time purely for this project
I would pick out a starter army of say 1000pts and work toward that. Going to sit down and write out a list, I figure it doesn't have to work or even be technically legal but does seem a way to chip at it
Having an army PLOG also helps, as you can look back on it and see how much progress you've made. Painting log sounds good, I enjoy looking at others so much and get a bit envious of people actually getting their shit together, I will have to start one, just don't expect fast progress ^^
I recommend starting with a unit of 10 archers, just paint them up, if your not happy with the archers.....well they are just bowmen filthy peasants, they can get a base coat and a wash of chestnut ink - as you say they're just bowmen a quick splodge of any colour will be better than none
Podcasts, videos, articles, blogs, forums. They're all things that really make me want to paint. Just make sure you're not doing that instead of painting. Now this one is a biggie and really hits home it almost hurt, I immerse myself into a project SO much I read every book I can get my hands on , so many vids and other peoples logs, armylists colour schemes whatever and as you say NOT to do I procrastinate so much on everything I never pick up a brush.
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Post by sonofkurnos on Mar 19, 2023 20:25:50 GMT
Loving all this positivity!! Hopefully it'll translate to a hobby blog put up here for me to follow 👌
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Post by knoffles on Mar 20, 2023 7:48:39 GMT
Like others I tend to like batch painting 10-20 models (or 5-6 for Cav). Very much a conveyor line of paint all the boots brown, then all the tunics then all the trousers etc. I appreciate that this approach will mainly only work for peasants. Before I started my Brets (they sat unpainted for 20+ years) I found the thought of painting them overwhelming. It was less about the scale and more down to doing them up to a standard I wanted to and thought they should be at. Almost setting myself up to fail before I started, so I never started.
So the following are things I found that helped me (and you can see they are more around painting (which may or may not be useful to you).
I found some basic heraldry patterns that I thought I could do (chevrons, crosses, quartering etc.). I can link some patterns in a drop box if you like. Some are from early WD mags. The 5th Ed Bret army book also had some blank pictures of horses with the cloth over them (the actual name escapes me) so you could sketch out your patterns first.of course it depends how ‘to town’ you want to go with the models. Some folk make each a work of art.
Start with you peasants, then yeomen then knights errant, kotr, questing and then Grail (or skip the peasants). That way you start with the most basic schemes with the Errants and as you get more confident with the Bret painting, you can move onto the ‘higher level’ knights.
Putting together some basic colour schemes (as in sets of 2 colours) that work with each other that I could apply to each model. I put some of these onto a sheet of paper first to see if I liked them
Having a army colour scheme, that I could apply to the peasants to unify them.
Contrast paints. Although not all my Brets were painted with them. I find they greatly speed up the process.
Making the first leap. The trebuchets were some of the first models I painted. As I was able to do the bulk of them with a brown contrast paint, they were super quick to finish. Once you’ve made a start and finished something, I found it helped give me a push to keep going.
Plagiarise. There are many, many superbly painted Bret models out there. Some are to a ridiculous standard but many are painted much more simply but still look really effective. I have a metric ton of ‘inspiration’ print screens taken from Instagram/Pinterest etc. I found that also helped me, knowing each knight didn’t have to be an individual ‘feast for the eyes’.
And the last one for me was deciding to paint each knight unit the same colours. Each individual knight had different heraldry or patterns but they were done in the same colours (so one unit for yellow and black, another blue and yellow etc). For me that made the task far less daunting (though I appreciate that this approach isn’t to everyone’s taste).
I also find that working towards something really helps. Like knowing you have a game coming up can push you to finish that unit. On that front, although I prefer to field all painted units, in a situation like yours, having that mind set can also be an impediment to playing (or even getting started on painting), so I’d aim to get a new unit finished before each game you play. That could be your target.
I also use painting as a digital detox. Being on a PC all day means that painting time in the evening is a way of switching off, almost a ‘reward’.
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Post by knoffles on Mar 20, 2023 8:38:46 GMT
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Post by grandmasterwang on Mar 21, 2023 14:54:58 GMT
This has been a great topic to read. For me, the monthly challenge and having a painting log helps.
Like the topic creator I have tons of unpainted minis. If I dwelled on that I'd never paint anything (dwellers below?). Instead I let inspiration take me when looking at or pondering my unpainted things and pick one or two things that tickle my fancy and focus purely on painting that for the immediate future. That ensures my hobby stays enjoyable and gives a palpable sense of progress as the thing I have chosen slowly 🐌 takes shape until it is eventually battle worthy.
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Post by tofukyo on Mar 21, 2023 19:00:59 GMT
knoffles Thank you for the links, I've already perused through your plog and a few others taking notes for inspiration (y'know instead of painting anything myself) and I'll be having a look through the dropbox files you've gathered as well. Going through from errants to grails and sounds like a solid plan, considering, as you have mentioned the level and possibilities of painting these makes it a daunting task indeed and I hope as it progresses my first will not look as good as latter ones with practice.
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Post by knoffles on Mar 21, 2023 20:17:48 GMT
Like grandmasterwang I also find variety helps me out loads. Having models from quite a few armies let’s me switch between them and keeps things interesting. But if you only have Brets, painting a warmachine one day, followed by some knights and then some peasants might have the same effect.
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