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Post by vulcan on Feb 11, 2018 0:09:48 GMT
The 8E Bretonnian errata was pretty basic and straightforward. Only two really notable items come to mind.
1) The Virtue that gives Heroic Killing Blow can now be used with magic weapons.
2) Bretonnian cavalry in Lance formation get to count their ranks of 3 to break steadfast, instead of the ranks of 5 most cavalry needs.
The second one is the really big one that makes core Bret cavalry at all useful.
It's worth noting that officially, the errata never lifted the restrictions on the BSB - no mundane lance, no mundane shield.
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Post by knoffles on Feb 11, 2018 9:06:22 GMT
The 8E Bretonnian errata was pretty basic and straightforward. Only two really notable items come to mind. 1) The Virtue that gives Heroic Killing Blow can now be used with magic weapons. 2) Bretonnian cavalry in Lance formation get to count their ranks of 3 to break steadfast, instead of the ranks of 5 most cavalry needs. The second one is the really big one that makes core Bret cavalry at all useful. It's worth noting that officially, the errata never lifted the restrictions on the BSB - no mundane lance, no mundane shield. They were all good changes and the bsb can still be given magic armour and weapons so not a total loss. |
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Post by vulcan on Feb 12, 2018 0:00:07 GMT
True, but unless you take the Bret-specific armor that includes a shield, the BSB can't have a shield at all. Quite the vulnerability for such a vital - and required - character.
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Post by knoffles on Feb 12, 2018 9:23:39 GMT
True, but unless you take the Bret-specific armor that includes a shield, the BSB can't have a shield at all. Quite the vulnerability for such a vital - and required - character. Hey Vulcan, I’n fairly confident he can take a magic shield as the 8th Edition brb just states you must be able to take mundane armour to equip magic armour (apologies I haven’t got it on me to quote the exact page). It was only in previous editions that you had to be able to take a specific piece of armour (such as a shield) to equip the magic version. |
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Post by vulcan on Feb 13, 2018 0:02:41 GMT
I'll have to go back and re-read it. It's entirely possible I missed something.
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Post by knoffles on Feb 13, 2018 12:24:27 GMT
I did go back and have a look and the bit I was thinking about was relating to wizards and armour where it says if they either come with normal armour or the option to equip it, then they can take magic armour.
However I couldn’t find anything in these rules that state you have to be able to equip a specific piece of mundane armour to take the magic equivalent (though this was definitely the case in the previous edition).
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Post by vulcan on Feb 19, 2018 1:09:58 GMT
I think that's where I got confused...
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Post by knoffles on Feb 19, 2018 8:17:56 GMT
Painting straight lines (e.g. for chevrons).
So question for the group,what do you think is the best way to do this. I had in my mind painting most of the model all one colour (e.g. yellow) with all the washes/highlights etc and then using some form of tape to mark out the edges of the chevrons so I could paint in the middle (say black) and when I peel off the tape it leaves nice neat pre-defined matching chevrons (and hopefully doesn’t pull off the paint when the tape is removed though if the base is a light colour it should be ok to touch up). Well that’s my thinking anyway.
I basically don’t trust my freehand. Any better ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 18:33:16 GMT
I've started freehanding them, but if you don't trust your own freehand I used to use green painters tape for my Iron Warriors chevrons. Works pretty well. I would typically create a mask ahead of time and then apply it to the model where I want the line to be.
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Post by mottdon on Feb 19, 2018 19:10:51 GMT
I've done that before too, but it was very tedious for me.
Another way, if you have an airbrush, is to take some poster putty, roll it out into the shape you want and press it down flat. After airbrushing your color, it'll give you a hard edge. If you leave it in a roll (snake) tube, then it'll give you a soft edge. I know a lot of 40K players will do this when painting their tanks, etc. camouflage. That might be another option for you if you have an airbrush.
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Post by alanthemoderate on Feb 19, 2018 22:58:52 GMT
I've done that before too, but it was very tedious for me. Another way, if you have an airbrush, is to take some poster putty, roll it out into the shape you want and press it down flat. After airbrushing your color, it'll give you a hard edge. If you leave it in a roll (snake) tube, then it'll give you a soft edge. I know a lot of 40K players will do this when painting their tanks, etc. camouflage. That might be another option for you if you have an airbrush. I use this to Airbrush WW2 model cameo and can confirm it works super well. Even when I was painting careful Japanese camouflage (Which has very angular yellow lines) it worked perfect. Also you can use the putty to cover up what you just did, and air brush the rest of the model another colour |
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Post by knoffles on Oct 8, 2018 19:42:44 GMT
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Post by vulcan on Oct 8, 2018 23:52:04 GMT
Looks good.
Don't worry overmuch about the small details. From the other side of the board he'll look just fine.
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Post by knoffles on Oct 9, 2018 11:56:09 GMT
Damn! I gotta say, as someone who is also upgrading a collection of Bretonians (From AoS to 8th ed) it is nice to know someone else shares my pain when it comes to this  I gotta ask though, how is Norba Miniatures? Have you used them before? I really like the look of the models on their website, but I hesitate to buy from an 'unknown' mini dealer. Also I suggest Veni Vidi Vici transfers if you need some, they are pretty awesome! Plus they are damn cheap! Hi Alan, I never came back to you on Norba miniatures. The models are not bad resin. Reasonably detailed and cast though I’ve not yet put them together so not sure if much green stuffing is required. The deliver times were awful. It took just over 3 months to receive them and from comments on FB, this is not an unusual time frame. Still if you are forewarned and prepared to wait then they should be fine. Once I’ve built them, I’ll post pics. |
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Post by alanthemoderate on Oct 9, 2018 20:33:06 GMT
Damn! I gotta say, as someone who is also upgrading a collection of Bretonians (From AoS to 8th ed) it is nice to know someone else shares my pain when it comes to this I gotta ask though, how is Norba Miniatures? Have you used them before? I really like the look of the models on their website, but I hesitate to buy from an 'unknown' mini dealer. Also I suggest Veni Vidi Vici transfers if you need some, they are pretty awesome! Plus they are damn cheap! Hi Alan, I never came back to you on Norba miniatures. The models are not bad resin. Reasonably detailed and cast though I’ve not yet put them together so not sure if much green stuffing is required. The deliver times were awful. It took just over 3 months to receive them and from comments on FB, this is not an unusual time frame. Still if you are forewarned and prepared to wait then they should be fine. Once I’ve built them, I’ll post pics. Thanks! I am trying not to buy too many more models until I get to painting (How many of us have said that before?), but I really appreciate you letting me know about them. I might order some of their Not!Grail Pilgrims |
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