I haven't seen anyone pose this question yet - is the purpose of this forum to be a shrine to 8th edition Warhammer or is this going to be a community effort to create Warhammer 8.5 (or Warhammer 9th, etc)? I can see this forum is quite new and I'm curious to see what direction you'd like to drive this community and discussion.
I'll also take a moment to tip my hat to Kevin! I have been a big fan of your Chaos Dwarf fanbook from years back and it has provided me so many, many hours of enjoyment. It still has a special place on my shelf!
Post by TheREALricksalamone on Jul 15, 2015 14:32:57 GMT
The beginning of your post sounded a little pointed...as if we are trying to live our lives in the past.
Speaking for those who founded this community I will say that we enjoy eighth. Yes there are a few areas that people like more or less, but as a game we see it as complete.
Our issue with making a new edition or revising eighth is that it will get messy, as a few of my brothers on here have articulated already.
Hopefully by coming up with alternatives to the army books we can keep things fresh. There is the issue of how to draw in new players. How do we grow this old game that isn't for sale anymore? I'm not sure. Selfishly I want to keep playing EE with my friends and with other like-minded gamers.
The purpose of the EEFL movement is primarily to make sure that proper warhammer players don't look at the new alternative and say "alright warhammer is dead so I'm out, selling my army, not looking back". If these guys rage quit because they perceive that their hobby is dead, that would be tragic. We created this forum for players who want to keep going with a way of life that they enjoy.
Post by TheREALricksalamone on Jul 15, 2015 18:31:20 GMT
It just might be that the people I play with don't do any of that gamey stuff. My perspective doesn't include the WAAC tournament guys. We play for fun in a basement. I agree that there are things that can be exploited but I don't know how you'd fix it without having 10 different versions of warhammer...which would then make warhammer seem pretty stupid.
So what you are looking for is a community approved rule revision that would have to become standardized.
I certainly didn't mean to lead off my question in a disrespectful tone so I apologize if that's the way it came across. I'm a long-time Warhammer Fantasy enthusiast and hope I can keep playing 8th edition for years to come. However even for me the game has gotten a little stale since we've been playing the same edition for 5+ years so I'm one of those actively searching for a solid 8.5 version to toy around with. I see that this is a new forum and I just wanted to know what direction the founders were hoping to guide this group. Kevin has shown himself to be surprisingly creative in the past so I take that as a good sign.
I will however try and rephrase the question - is this group's aim to clean up the rules for 8th edition to make them even better or will the focus be more about evolving the game further?
Post by TheREALricksalamone on Jul 15, 2015 19:40:39 GMT
No problem. To answer your question: EEFL is about playing EE as is. We are happy with the rules and only see working within the army books as a way to add interest/fix imbalance. If you dig around the forum you will find a few guys who are already working, elsewhere, to make an 8.1, 8.5, or 9. This sounds like it's more important for the tourney scene but EEFL wasn't planning to take in that task right now. The current plan is to get bretonnians updated and also get the Stormcast Eternals playable. There is also a seed planted to make mechanical dwarves, looks like a steampunk thing perhaps.
Post by wilsonthenarc on Jul 17, 2015 18:02:36 GMT
When your gaming group is all local folks that you can administer wedgies to, policing dirtbag gamesmanship is easier. This removes the need for 17 pages of FAQs and addendums. I happen to think 8th is like 96% perfect, but I am happy to keep playing it exactly as is. If I travel across the state to a different gaming group, and they have slightly tweaked rules - all the better. I liken it to baseball... 96% of the game is identical BUT each ball park has it's own outfield dimensions and so on, leading to just a very slight fun variance game to game.