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Post by mottdon on Apr 6, 2018 14:33:52 GMT
*Spoilers*
So I was trying to track down what happened to Queen Khalida in the End Times books and I can only seem to find where she was fighting Neferata in a duel, but then their fight was interrupted by some "foul spirit" (incredibly vague) upon which Neferata gets the heck outta there and locks Khalida in the room with the spirit. (Neferata hears screaming behind her, but doesn't know if it's Khalida (either her anger or death throws) or the spirit (exacting revenge or getting it's butt kicked).
At any rate, if this was the last mention of either one of them, it was left VERY open ended. I can't locate any other mention of them. Do you think that this was GW's way of reserving them for a return in AoS? I could totally see Khalida coming back as the Asp Goddess herself. Settra too. Negash just left him there in pieces. Alive. If anyone has the will to make a come-back, it's that guy.
So what do you guys think?
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Post by sedge on Apr 6, 2018 14:49:54 GMT
My recollection of the last novel (the Josh Reynolds one, not the big end times book) was that her and Neferata were stood hand-in-hand on the battlements of one of the Sylvanian castles, watching the tide of chaos roll across the land towards them. They're actually the very last surviving characters mentioned.
I can check this when I get home, but I'm 99% sure that's how it ended.
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Post by And again... on Apr 6, 2018 15:15:28 GMT
What's the point of cancelling Warhammer and going on of EONS with the so called fluff of the new aos(read:soap) opera if they keep using the original Warhammer characters mostly supposed to be dead in those silly books called ET.
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Post by mottdon on Apr 6, 2018 15:48:26 GMT
They don't have to create 30+ years of fluff story that way...  |
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Post by Naitsabes on Apr 6, 2018 20:51:48 GMT
My recollection of the last novel (the Josh Reynolds one, not the big end times book) was that her and Neferata were stood hand-in-hand on the battlements of one of the Sylvanian castles, watching the tide of chaos roll across the land towards them. They're actually the very last surviving characters mentioned. I can check this when I get home, but I'm 99% sure that's how it ended. aaw. holding hands! In the End Time books as far as I remember it is Tyrion and his Lady doing the same thing. How many End Time novels are there? I wonder if I should try hunting them down. I have not been impressed by warhammer fiction in general. |
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Post by gregwarhamsters on Apr 6, 2018 22:25:58 GMT
I never really bothered with the end times, mainly because of the armies I had but I'd be interested in a list of books, I may get around to reading some.
Greg
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Post by KevinC on Apr 7, 2018 1:11:35 GMT
*Spoilers*So I was trying to track down what happened to Queen Khalida in the End Times books and I can only seem to find where she was fighting Neferata in a duel, but then their fight was interrupted by some "foul spirit" (incredibly vague) upon which Neferata gets the heck outta there and locks Khalida in the room with the spirit. (Neferata hears screaming behind her, but doesn't know if it's Khalida (either her anger or death throws) or the spirit (exacting revenge or getting it's butt kicked).
At any rate, if this was the last mention of either one of them, it was left VERY open ended. I can't locate any other mention of them. Do you think that this was GW's way of reserving them for a return in AoS? I could totally see Khalida coming back as the Asp Goddess herself. Settra too. Negash just left him there in pieces. Alive. If anyone has the will to make a come-back, it's that guy.
So what do you guys think? --------I think that was it for Khalida, but Settra was fighting in the final battle in Middenheim. |
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Post by sedge on Apr 7, 2018 8:59:08 GMT
My recollection of the last novel (the Josh Reynolds one, not the big end times book) was that her and Neferata were stood hand-in-hand on the battlements of one of the Sylvanian castles, watching the tide of chaos roll across the land towards them. They're actually the very last surviving characters mentioned. I can check this when I get home, but I'm 99% sure that's how it ended. aaw. holding hands! In the End Time books as far as I remember it is Tyrion and his Lady doing the same thing. How many End Time novels are there? I wonder if I should try hunting them down. I have not been impressed by warhammer fiction in general. There was a novel accompanying each End Times book (so 5 of those), plus the Malus Darkblade one and two Gotrek & Felix novels. They were generally pretty good, and if you enjoyed the End Times (though obviously not the result) they're worth a read. There were also various short stories covering things like Kislev and so on; I haven't got around to reading those yet - they were only available as ebooks or in some of the End Times compilations. |
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Post by knoffles on Apr 7, 2018 11:50:11 GMT
As well as the 5 eot novels you also had to read the 5 A4 sized books that were released with the additional rules books to get the entire story.
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Post by sedge on Apr 7, 2018 16:54:59 GMT
Last couple of pages of "Lord of the End Times" by Josh Reynolds:   I don't believe Khalida is mentioned anywhere between the the first book (there's the duel, and then right at the end she joins Nagash's forces realising that she has no choice of defeating him, plus being close gives her the best chance of revenge against Neferata) and this point. The only other mention of Neferata between those points that I can recall is of her disappearing off to the Silver Pinnacle again, though I think Nagash later put her in charge of the defence of Sylvania (to Mannfred's chagrin). |
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Post by askaval30 on Apr 9, 2018 12:43:44 GMT
The Lore in the Nagash book wasn't bad and a far cry better than the nonsensical BS that went into the other volumes of the series.
Tomb Kings had the closest to what I would consider a proper send-off before the curtains dropped.
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Post by mottdon on Apr 9, 2018 13:11:46 GMT
Well, I've been reading through the Nagash book and I have to admit, it's not bad. I just got through Krell being decapitated by the Tomb Scorpion. I have to admit, I was quietly cheering inside, "DIE MOTHER F**KER!"
I've heard terrible things about the rest of the books, and I'm sure I'll get super-pissed in Glottkin and Thanquol when they destroy my beloved Empire and Dwarves, but I'll go through them anyway.
Tomb Kings should make a return in AoS anyway. They deserve a good sect of their own.
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Post by sedge on Apr 9, 2018 19:03:20 GMT
I've read all the End Times associated books, and they're not as bad as people make out. I did find the Glottkin & Thanquol ones a slog, but that's mainly because I'm not into Nurgle and wasn't interested in Skaven at the time. None of them are as good as Nagash (which was excellent), and there's a definite feeling that the rest of them were rushed - there's so much that's skipped over, and so many major places and characters that get ignored (Gilles/Abhorash is the one most people cite). I think a lot of the dislike of them is rolled up with the anger at the scrapping of the Old World & WFB.
They're worth a read, particularly because you can now enjoy them as a "What If?" work of fiction, rather than actually changing the 8th edition setting we all enjoy playing in.
I still hold out hopes that Tomb Kings will become a sub-faction of Death in AOS, with the 8th era plastic kits returning (and hopefully an accompanying made to order round for the resin/metal ones).
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Post by mottdon on Apr 9, 2018 20:46:21 GMT
I imagine that TK could be a sect of Death like Morathi is now a sect of Elves, with her Bitc, er, um....Witch Elf lackies. Totally their own group, siphoning off some of that Death magic. Settra could be the new Ptra, and Khalida could be the new Asaph. That would seem to fit within AoS story telling. And maybe we'd get some new models to play with!
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Post by Naitsabes on Apr 9, 2018 23:55:11 GMT
I've read all the End Times associated books, and they're not as bad as people make out. I did find the Glottkin & Thanquol ones a slog, but that's mainly because I'm not into Nurgle and wasn't interested in Skaven at the time. None of them are as good as Nagash (which was excellent), and there's a definite feeling that the rest of them were rushed - there's so much that's skipped over, and so many major places and characters that get ignored (Gilles/Abhorash is the one most people cite). I think a lot of the dislike of them is rolled up with the anger at the scrapping of the Old World & WFB. They're worth a read, particularly because you can now enjoy them as a "What If?" work of fiction, rather than actually changing the 8th edition setting we all enjoy playing in. I still hold out hopes that Tomb Kings will become a sub-faction of Death in AOS, with the 8th era plastic kits returning (and hopefully an accompanying made to order round for the resin/metal ones). well put. I wholeheartedly agree. |
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