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Post by jukei on May 9, 2020 13:56:46 GMT
Chaff ... I must say I am sad to leave screamers on the shelf. But as chaff they are really Expensive ( 120 points for 3 ...) As Wm hunters they can work well but not much better then Chaos Fury in terms of cost -benefits They can work well if they are 4 or 5 but they will be then really expensive and they fit better in a points denial list Imho.
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Post by jukei on May 9, 2020 14:00:23 GMT
I am testing the list and soon I will update the thread if you are curious to know how it performs. For sure I can say right now I am using the best we can get from Tzeentch. Aesthetically maybe I would prefer flamers and screamers on the battlefield but I decided to try to win ...sometimes :-)
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Post by jukei on Jul 4, 2020 16:26:16 GMT
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Post by jukei on Jul 16, 2020 14:35:23 GMT
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Post by jukei on Jul 16, 2020 14:37:01 GMT
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jul 17, 2020 3:13:47 GMT
Those are both cool models. Can you post some size comparison pictures of them with other Warhammer figures.
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Post by jukei on Jul 17, 2020 8:17:43 GMT
Those are both cool models. Can you post some size comparison pictures of them with other Warhammer figures. I will be back home next week. i will do a pic for you. IMHO their proportions are one of the main reason I bought it. I saw them in a shop...that's why I bought it. It's always difficult to judge from a pic. You are right. Anyway the snake /serpent fits perfectly with a" classic "idea of Daemons. It's how I imagined the model ( for sure I don't want an ugly huge half mech in my army) Both of the model, expecially Nagiri doesn't have anything on the bottom and this allows you to simply put on the right warhammer base and play it. On the tabletop I was pretty happy of the overall effect mate.
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Post by jukei on Jul 29, 2020 16:32:03 GMT
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Post by jukei on Jan 10, 2021 12:43:57 GMT
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Post by jukei on Jan 10, 2021 12:45:59 GMT
In the link I posted above you will find the armylist I am going to test soon. I am confident it can perform not so bad. stay tuned
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Post by jukei on May 31, 2021 17:58:48 GMT
Lords + 1200 pts
Daemon Prince [420pts]: Chaos armour, Daemon of Tzeentch, Lore of Metal, Wizard Level 4
. Armour: Chaos Armour, Model: Daemon Prince, Weapon: Hand Weapon
Daemon Prince [260pts]: Daemon of Tzeentch
Daemon Prince [260pts]: Daemon of Tzeentch
Daemon Prince [260pts]: Daemon of Tzeentch
+ Core + 600 pts
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch [150pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, Musician, 10x Pink Horror of Tzeentch, Standard Bearer, Wizard Level 1
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch [150pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, Musician, 10x Pink Horror of Tzeentch, Standard Bearer, Wizard Level 1
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch [150pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, Musician, 10x Pink Horror of Tzeentch, Standard Bearer, Wizard Level 1
Pink Horrors of Tzeentch [150pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, Musician, 10x Pink Horror of Tzeentch, Standard Bearer, Wizard Level 1
+ Special + 600 pts
Chaos Furies [60pts]: 5x Chaos Fury
Chaos Furies [60pts]: 5x Chaos Fury
Chaos Furies [60pts]: 5x Chaos Fury
Flamers of Tzeentch [210pts]: Champion, 5x Flamer of Tzeentch
Flamers of Tzeentch [210pts]: Champion, 5x Flamer of Tzeentch
I tested the list above couple of times. As feedback I can tell that the 4 princes are not great but for sure good. Lore of metal is a good lore and it helps a lot. Princes have to be used almost all together for having good result...1 or 2 will die anyway... The main problem, anyway, is that the enemy will arrive sooner or later and it's very easy to lose 4 blocks of horrors ( easy points ) 600 points furies used as chaff will always die (180 points )and in melee flamers are okish but they can be also easy points. So I will give the army another shot and I will update you.
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Post by jukei on Nov 12, 2022 9:59:26 GMT
Hi everybody, here I am for some upgrades. Some of you wrote me that they don't play with end of times 50% Lord pts allowance and I decided to work on a list which can fit the "normal " rules pre end of times I am testing this list and I hope you like it
+++ New Roster (Warhammer Fantasy 8th ed) [2,491pts] +++
The Conclave Of the Lost Spiral
+ Lords + 620pts
HAAL The Fallen - Daemon Prince [315pts]: Chaos armour, Daemon of Tzeentch, Lore of Metal, Wizard Level 1
ZUBERI The Quicksilver - Daemon Prince [305pts]: Chaos armour, Daemon of Tzeentch, Lesser Gifts
+ Heroes + 596 pts
The Oracle of Change Herald of Tzeentch [110pts]: Lore of Metal, Wizard Level 1
. Disc of Tzeentch
The Changebringer Herald of Tzeentch [235pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Greater Gifts, Greater Locus of Change, Lore of Metal, Wizard Level 2
The Librarians The Blue Scribes [81pts]
The Serpent Master of the Change - The Changeling [170pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 1
+ Core + 625 pts
The Thousand Flames - Pink Horrors of Tzeentch [625pts]: Lore of Tzeentch, 45x Pink Horror of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 1
. Champion
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Eternal Flame
+ Rare + 460 pts
The Burning Paradox Burning Chariot of Tzeentch [150pts]
The Scarab Soul Grinder [310pts]: Daemon of Tzeentch, Phlegm Bombardment
+ Special + 190 pts
The cursed Chaos Furies [70pts]
. 5x Chaos Fury: 5x Daemons of Tzeentch
The Arcane Echoes - Screamers of Tzeentch [120pts]: 3x Screamer of Tzeentch
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Post by jukei on Nov 12, 2022 10:02:17 GMT
Shooting
Flamers are not worth their points . Their range is limited ,their damage is limited and they can drop regeneration . If we play them . The only viable target can be the enemy chaff because you don't want to drop regeneration to a horde or big unit.
Chariots . The drop template can cause panic so we must play the chariot in a way to try to shoot and maybe trigger the flee off the table .
I think we should invest 50 points and upgrade the soul grinder with catapult. Having a catapult can help you to kill a monster or weaken a dangerous enemy horde.
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Post by jukei on Nov 12, 2022 10:03:32 GMT
War machine hunters / chaff
-blue scribes can also be used as chaff and delay an opponent dangerous troop. -3 screamers are ok as chaff and as war machine hunters. -playing bigger unit is not always worth ( especially in this list) due the fact they don't get all the support attacks from the second rank and often their 40x40 base is not helping to maximase contact in melee. one unit of 5 furies
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Post by jukei on Nov 12, 2022 10:05:48 GMT
Magic
I herald bsb lev 2 lore of metal + 1 prince lev 1 lore of metal + 1 herald on disk lev 1 of metal will grant us 4 spells from this lore which is far better than lore of tzeentch . Lore of metal can be very useful to weaken armour save , buff your units and final tarsmutation is the nuke spell you are searching for. Btw we will get 2 tzentchy spells from changeling and horrors and we can hope to get the infernal gateway! Moreover With changeling, horrors and the 2 heralds and a prince we have 5 channeling dice per phase plus dice from scribes if ability is triggered. On average you will get additional dice and this will help the casting pahse and the dispel phase
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