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Post by Luigino on Jan 4, 2023 21:08:16 GMT
A 3+ 5++ is a pretty hefty save Sure is, bit it's not "best armour in the old world hefty. Especially since unlike other armies dwarfs don't have access to units with a 2+ or better save. |
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Jan 4, 2023 21:21:12 GMT
The age old question, that shows if you are a weedy git or propa´! - An orc or a Goblin? Snotling, obviously Haha, fair enough.. Snotlings > Goblins (weedy gitz!) |
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Post by wundapantz on Jan 4, 2023 21:56:11 GMT
My all time favorite miniature is the orc boy with spiked club on page 35 of the 4th edition Warhammer Armies Orc and Goblin book, i've gotta say Orc. Just look at his eyes... He's Gunna krump real good something small.. |
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Post by knoffles on Jan 4, 2023 22:31:45 GMT
The age old question, that shows if you are a weedy git or propa´! - An orc or a Goblin? Orcs, mainly down to the number of epic characters in the 4/5th ed book - top of the pile, Morglum Necksnapper. |
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Post by DiscoQing on Jan 4, 2023 22:58:41 GMT
40 Dwarf Warriors with Great Weapons, 2 Lords on shieldbearers, and BSB.
Now there's a unit
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Jan 4, 2023 23:00:01 GMT
My all time favorite miniature is the orc boy with spiked club on page 35 of the 4th edition Warhammer Armies Orc and Goblin book, i've gotta say Orc. Just look at his eyes... He's Gunna krump real good something small.. Ah he´s great! What a face.. he´s gonna clobber some weedy git! 
Morglum Necksnapper is cool! Kinda forgot about him..
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Post by grandmasterwang on Jan 6, 2023 7:42:40 GMT
Ghorgon, Ironbreakers, Goblins  Great topic. Ghorgon/Cygor kit is imo one of the very best GW have released. It was so good they even reused the Ghorgon head sculpt for the Wildfyre Taurus kit. Cygor rock (left over when Ghorgon is made) is my favourite GW designed rock with the vine at the bottom and glyph on it. Ironbreakers are just that bit more unique than Longbeards and I love the lore of them battling in the tunnels vs Skaven and Night Goblins. Goblins are to me just that tiny bit more characterful and comical than Orcs. Skarsnik is my favourite OnG special character and I love the Night Goblin sculpts and lore. Without them I'd choose Orcs. Battle of the Empire V's. Volkmar or Valten?  |
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jan 6, 2023 9:07:51 GMT
To keep it going: long beards or ironbreakers? I have some of each - Longbeards to expand my Core slot and bring some Immunity to Psychology, Ironbreakers to bring the tankiest Dwarfs there are to offer into the game. @luigino Ironbreakers may not have a 2+ save, but they are the only Dwarf unit to have a 3+ armour save (the best that infantry can get), plus a permanent 5+ Ward Save in close combat thanks to Shieldwall of Gromril. They make Phoenix Guard look like amateurs and are great at laughing off things like Witch Elves, Savage Orc Big'Uns e.t.c that rely upon kicking out a storm of paper cuts that can whittle down other Dwarf units. |
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Post by lordofskullpass on Jan 6, 2023 9:11:03 GMT
The age old question, that shows if you are a weedy git or propa´! - An orc or a Goblin? Again, I have some of each, mainly Night Goblins on the Gobbo side to hide Fanatics, herd/ride on Squigs and just generally be cheap fodder, and mainly standard Orcs on the Orc side. |
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Post by sedge on Jan 6, 2023 12:06:08 GMT
The age old question, that shows if you are a weedy git or propa´! - An orc or a Goblin? That's not a fair question! It should be "an orc or TWO goblins", given they're 6 / 3 points each. I'd take the two goblins, thanks. One to distract the orc by making rude faces at it, and the other to sneak up and plant a rusty knife in its back. |
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Post by simon on Jan 6, 2023 12:41:12 GMT
I love ironbreakers. They just don't lose combat. I've only got 20 but have had so many big enemy units just bounce off them. That said I love longbeards too but I think ironbreakers or hammerers is a more pertinent question...
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Jan 6, 2023 12:44:11 GMT
Good point. I was really more into what you enjoy more than game effectiveness or similar.. But good point! I am more of an Orc player that enjoys bullying Gobbos and using them as fodder..  they are funny but evil little gitz.. Orcs are just orcs.. Not that consciously evil as Gobbos. hehe. |
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Post by wundapantz on Jan 7, 2023 0:51:42 GMT
I love ironbreakers. They just don't lose combat. I've only got 20 but have had so many big enemy units just bounce off them. That said I love longbeards too but I think ironbreakers or hammerers is a more pertinent question... Ironbreakers are my favourite of the dwarf special infantry; lorewise and gamewise. Loving the responses. I posed the question from the perspective of how to build the miniatures, but I think we're getting richer responses |
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Post by wundapantz on Jan 7, 2023 1:05:45 GMT
Battle of the Empire V's. Volkmar or Valten? Volkmar. I came in at the cusp of fifth edition, buying 4th ed game but 5th ed magic supplement (14 year olds - right?) And Volkmar was in a lot of the art work. Valten just feels like a Storm Of Chaos Johnny-come-lately to an old grumbler like me. |
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Post by Luigino on Jan 7, 2023 4:51:31 GMT
Quarrelers or thunderers?
And why is that thunderers are for boys, quarrelers are for men?
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they are funny but evil little gitz.. Orcs are just orcs.. Not that consciously evil as Gobbos. hehe.