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Post by strutsagget on Jul 24, 2017 18:12:15 GMT
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Post by mottdon on Jul 24, 2017 19:35:41 GMT
Yeah, this guy definitely knows what he's talking about, as the results show, but his choice of materials will break down over time. What he used is quick and easy to produce, but after using that building a year (maybe less depending on use), then it'll show a lot of signs of fatigue.
A good rule of thumb, the faster it is to make, the faster it will fall apart.
I used to make models like this every day when I was getting my degree in Architecture. The foam insulation will chip and flake off the more it is handled and bumped and the foamcore board will start to pull apart (especially when painted on one side - All materials expand and contract due to moisture in the air, so if one side is protected by paint, the other side will be moving at a different rate. This is why painted wood lasts longer when exposed to the elements. Another layer of protection.). The Bass Wood he used to represent the Rough Hewn Wooden Beams is probably the strongest component of the model and will give it the strength it needs to be played with in more than 3-4 games. It is essentially holding the model together. It is also one of the most labor-intensive portions of the model to make. This means lots of measuring and cutting (with an Exacto Blade or a special Architectural tool used for cutting Bass Wood - handy). He even mentions that he got tired of cutting pieces for Window mullions (and I can testify that it is VERY laborious!). The shingles are PROBABLY made from a form of very thin Bass Wood as well, though I'm not sure since there are plenty of options that could be used for this. Colored card stock even.
Basically, if you want to take the time to make something like this, take a little more time and use materials that will hold up to more abuse because there is nothing more aggravating than watching something that you spent money, many hours to make, paying close attention to small detail, and paint, simply fall apart after 3-4 uses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 19:45:27 GMT
I like this a lot. Personally I'd rather just buy buildings as medieval buildings are something that everyone makes. I like these buildings though for the customization that you can do. I'm not a details person and so I think that I would end up with a bunch of bland looking models. I'd love to try someday though. Good points made mottdon. I think it would be important to seal the models though before you game with them. Personally I like to use white glue for this step, but I imagine there are better ways to seal the model before you apply paint. I would say seal, then prime, then paint, then seal again. Hopefully the building would last a while.
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 24, 2017 19:48:56 GMT
If I would buy resin parts instead and "only" assemble and paint. Are there any companies that people recomend more then others?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 19:55:11 GMT
armorcast ones are nice and cheap, although they look a little small; more appropriate for remote, backwater towns where the buildings are more likely to be small, one room huts.
kobblestone miniatures seems to make some nice looking ones as well; more expensive, but larger, more appropriate for a town/city.
really just search 28mm medieval buildings and the return list is a long one.
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Post by knoffles on Jul 24, 2017 20:01:30 GMT
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Post by mottdon on Jul 24, 2017 21:06:34 GMT
Oh my YES! I LOVE those tabletop-world models! I've followed them for a while now. They were on Warhammer-Empire and would carry on lengthy conversations with people there about what they should produce. Now THAT'S how to engage your customers! The only thing is that they are rather pricy. But if you can afford it, 100% worth it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 21:07:47 GMT
I just stumbled onto that blog when I was looking earlier and definitely liked what I saw.
They are a little expensive though.
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Post by Naitsabes on Jul 25, 2017 3:05:05 GMT
well, the classic thing to do when you have little money and lots of time are Hirst blocks. Here is the fruit of my labor:
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Post by strutsagget on Jul 25, 2017 4:16:07 GMT
well, the classic thing to do when you have little money and lots of time are Hirst blocks. Here is the fruit of my labor: Nice! Found a link www.hirstarts.com/
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Post by mottdon on Jul 25, 2017 13:03:25 GMT
Hirst blocks? Looks awesome, btw!
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Post by Horace on Jul 25, 2017 14:46:29 GMT
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Post by KevinC on Jul 25, 2017 15:29:54 GMT
Wow, great work!
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Post by mottdon on Jul 25, 2017 16:02:58 GMT
That looks awesome, Horace! What colors did you use for the walls and rough hewn tembers?
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Post by Naitsabes on Jul 25, 2017 16:09:16 GMT
Great job, Horace! (and good choice of roof color )
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