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Post by strutsagget on Oct 11, 2017 5:44:42 GMT
I would not change if you have old base sizes fitted 😊
There is no official list so if you can confirm errors we update this list. I dont play all the races so I have only checked WE and WoC and think all those are correct. Unicorn is probebly missing and its on 50x50 monsterous beast/cav size.
The latest version of the models came with new base sizes alot of times in 8ed.
Treeman was changed when the ”new” one was made to 50x75 and they (GW) base it both wide and deep on diffrent placed. I run my wide but wish I based it deep 😊
Dont have a new forest dragon but pretty sure its a monster and have bigger size then 50x50 as the old(only?) model came with.
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Post by knoffles on Oct 11, 2017 8:00:18 GMT
Does anyone know how accurate this list is? What is the the source? For instance, Settra is listed as having a 100X100mm base, but as far as I knew, he was always based on that strange chariot base with two cavalry bases flanking the front. Did GW ever officially rebase him in boxes? Also, the Wood Elf Forest dragon seems off. Shouldn't its official base size be 50x50mm (the base with which it came)? Can anyone confirm if the Treeman's base size of 75mmX50mm is correct? Also should the treeman's base be more wide than it is deep, or vice versa? The list shows what size bases should be taken for model types (e.g monstrous cav, monsters etc). I believe it is based on the actual bases that came with the most recently released models of each type. As we know, over the years GW had a trend of increasing base sizes. For instance, all early dragon models (such as the WE one) came on smaller bases but the final models released (e.g. HE) came on the larger base sizes. This is why our list (and tournament organisers) use the larger size bases so there is consistency. To my knowledge (and I wait to be shot down for being wrong 😉), GW never released a complete list of base sizes by models, which is why we put this together. With the best will in the world, it is possible that there may be a few errors so if you notice any please do comment/query. With regards to your specific queries, I have no idea on settra. For the wood elf dragon, It's covered by the above comment on increases to base sizes (though as long as your opponent doesn't mind the smaller base it shouldn't matter). With regards to the treeman query, if that is the base size of the latest model (before it went AoS - on a train atm so nowhere near my model to check) then it's correct. As for which end should be used as the front, there has been some debate on that but I (and people I play) tend to use the smaller end as the front, going on the assumption that it should follow the same logic as Cavalry/chariot bases etc. Oh and sry for repeating some of the above post, I started this earlier this morning and came back to it and strutsagget had responded in that time... |
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Post by mottdon on Oct 11, 2017 12:18:27 GMT
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Post by NIGHTBRINGER on Oct 11, 2017 15:03:27 GMT
Awesome, thanks guys. My wife doesn't have a new treeman (she has two of the old ones); I must admit that I thought they were based on a chariot base. It's good to know that the base is 75X50 mm. We've been planning on re-basing her old ones to the new standard.
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Post by knoffles on Oct 11, 2017 21:32:39 GMT
I have a load of the really old ones (as in 4th edition) but just use them as treekin now as the size of the new models has grown more than the bases...
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Post by strutsagget on Dec 25, 2017 12:43:08 GMT
So I have found strange things when looking at giants. In my new purchased giant, it comes with a unique(decorated) 50x75mm base. This chart says chariot base 50x100mm. What do you people think?
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Post by knoffles on Dec 25, 2017 20:21:11 GMT
Not sure but makes sense that it might be the same size as a treeman. The only giant I ever bought was the old metal Marauder one so no idea on current base size.
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Post by grandmasterwang on Dec 26, 2017 0:14:52 GMT
Does anyone know how accurate this list is? What is the the source? For instance, Settra is listed as having a 100X100mm base, but as far as I knew, he was always based on that strange chariot base with two cavalry bases flanking the front. Did GW ever officially rebase him in boxes? Also, the Wood Elf Forest dragon seems off. Shouldn't its official base size be 50x50mm (the base with which it came)? Can anyone confirm if the Treeman's base size of 75mmX50mm is correct? Also should the treeman's base be more wide than it is deep, or vice versa? I can confirm that GW never officially rebased Settra and the chariot base plus 2 cavalry bases is what it came with. However, due to that, the official played base counted as 100 x 100 as you couldn't fill the length slots left by the cavalry gaps. So 100 x 100 is correct, even though Settra came/comes with a 50*100 and 2 lots of 25*50. The length is the chariot base length of 100, the width is 50+25+25 = 100. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 16:36:33 GMT
So I have found strange things when looking at giants. In my new purchased giant, it comes with a unique(decorated) 50x75mm base. This chart says chariot base 50x100mm. What do you people think? pretty sure that the official size for a giant base is 50x100. That is the size that mine came on, and the size that I have seen all other giants on. Also Ghorgons and Cygors (Beastmen giant equivalents) are also mounted on 50x100 bases. EDIT: I was wrong about 9th age this is probably why yours was based the way it was: 9th age puts giants on 50x75mm bases which to me seems to be where the confusion comes from. NO IDEA why they did this as I'm pretty sure that giants have always been on 50x100 bases, but now I'm beginning to doubt life in general. |
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Post by TheREALricksalamone on Dec 26, 2017 23:41:57 GMT
So I have found strange things when looking at giants. In my new purchased giant, it comes with a unique(decorated) 50x75mm base. This chart says chariot base 50x100mm. What do you people think? pretty sure that the official size for a giant base is 50x100. That is the size that mine came on, and the size that I have seen all other giants on. Also Ghorgons and Cygors (Beastmen giant equivalents) are also mounted on 50x100 bases. EDIT: I was wrong about 9th age this is probably why yours was based the way it was: 9th age puts giants on 50x75mm bases which to me seems to be where the confusion comes from. NO IDEA why they did this as I'm pretty sure that giants have always been on 50x100 bases, but now I'm beginning to doubt life in general. Because the plastic giant kit comes with 50x75 I rebased my few giants in that size. The marauder giant looks really nice when standing on the 50x75 turned sideways. |
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Post by midnightfox0083 on Oct 26, 2018 21:55:25 GMT
Morghur's round base changed from a 60mm to a 60x35 oval.
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Post by DiscoQing on Oct 30, 2018 23:15:13 GMT
9th age puts giants on 50x75mm bases which to me seems to be where the confusion comes from. NO IDEA why they did this as I'm pretty sure that giants have always been on 50x100 bases, but now I'm beginning to doubt life in general. Ever since the current Giant plastic kit has been out, they have been on a 50x75mm base. Before that they were on 50mm bases (like most monsters). They have never been on 50x100mm bases... |
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Post by nostromo on Feb 28, 2020 13:28:06 GMT
Ungors are definitely 20mm in 8th? I have thirty of them supeglued hard in their old herd 25mm formation from 6th..
Does everyone play them 20mm? Might have to make a new regiment!
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Post by grandmasterwang on Feb 28, 2020 13:41:02 GMT
Ungors are definitely 20mm in 8th? I have thirty of them supeglued hard in their old herd 25mm formation from 6th.. Does everyone play them 20mm? Might have to make a new regiment! They are officially on 20mm for 8th Edition. I can confirm this as a Beastmen player. The old (new) plastic Ungor kit came with 20mm square bases. I don't think people would have a problem playing against ungors based in 6th edition style now though. Gameplay wise 25mm based ungors are a slight overall disadvantage which should help appease any opponent who says they should be on 20mms. |
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Post by mottdon on Mar 9, 2020 15:32:47 GMT
Yeah. Anytime you make units MORE hittable, most people don't have a problem with that. I recently "upgraded" a Orc Shaman on Wyvern to sit upon an Arock-sized base, even though it called for a chariot-sized base. The model was way too big for the smaller base and the larger one helped keep him from tipping over. Nobody has complained so far. Easier to hit him with cannons!
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