WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 17, 2017 13:49:10 GMT via mobile KevinC, wilsonthenarc, and 2 more like this

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Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 17, 2017 13:49:10 GMT

Hey all, as a newcomer to this forum with a love for making army lists I was wondering what you guys think of this setup. It's not meant to be overly competitive, I mostly play friendly games, but I still want it to have some heft and threat to it.

+ Lords +

Chaos Sorcerer Lord [414pts]: Barded Chaos Steed, Lore of Death, Mark of Nurgle, Wizard Level 4
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Flaming Breath
. Magic Items: BRB - Charmed Shield, BRB - Dispel Scroll, BRB - Talisman of Preservation, BRB - Warrior Bane

+ Heroes +

Exalted Hero [226pts]: Battle Standard Bearer, Halberd, Mark of Nurgle
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Hideous Visage, Scaled Skin
. Magic Items: AB - Helm of Many Eyes, BRB - Dawnstone

+ Core +

Chaos Warhounds [40pts]
. 5x Chaos Warhound: 5x Vanguard special rule

Chaos Warhounds [40pts]
. 5x Chaos Warhound: 5x Vanguard special rule

Chaos Warriors [368pts]
. Champion
. 19x Chaos Warrior: 19x Mark of Nurgle, 19x Shields
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Banner of Swiftness

Forsaken [126pts]
. 6x Forsaken: 6x Forsaken of Slaanesh

Forsaken [126pts]
. 6x Forsaken: 6x Forsaken of Slaanesh

+ Special +

Chaos Warshrine [135pts]: Mark of Nurgle

Chimera [275pts]: Flaming Breath, Regenerating Flesh

Gorebeast Chariot [140pts]: Mark of Nurgle

Gorebeast Chariot [140pts]: Mark of Nurgle

Chaos Knights [260pts]
. Champion
. 5x Chaos Knight: 5x Ensorcelled weapons, 5x Mark of Nurgle
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Gleaming Pennant

+ Rare +

Hellcannon [210pts]

++ Total: [2500pts] ++

I haven't tried the Hellcannon before so any tips on how to use it properly would be lovely. As I understand it it should be utilised as both a monster and a artillery piece.
Allthough I love the unit-type I'm also not certain how to get the most out of my forsaken. Would it perhaps be better to combine the two units into one 6x2 unit that tags along with my general and his escort? As it is now I was thinking about having one unit support my Sorc. Lord and his knights while the other, together with my warshrine, support the warrior block.

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 17, 2017 21:51:42 GMT

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Post by Naitsabes on Nov 17, 2017 21:51:42 GMT

I can't help you with Forsaken. I would try hard to find points for halberds on the warriors, it'll make them much more of a threat.

The hellcannon is pretty fight-y and with the ablative dwarf armor combined with the daemonic ward it can soak up quite a bit of warmachine fire. The shot is pretty good if you have the right targets but, if you don't (anymore), bring that thing into combat. Its misfire chart is quirky and that is the reason why you want to keep it away a bit from your other troops.

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 0:23:19 GMT

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Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 18, 2017 0:23:19 GMT

Thanks for the input mate!

I could totally switch out the warriors for halberdiers, in fact a unit of 6x3 halberdiers costs the exact same as the 5x4 swordsmen, so it would be a really easy fit to make. The primary reason I bring the shields instead of the halberds is that I prefer the look of the unit and I wanted something a bit more anvily, allthough I guess nurgly halberdiers would be quite decent at that job aswell.
If I read you right regarding the Hellcannon should I use it as a flank unit? That would actually work great for me as I prefer to field my Gorebeasts near the centre of my formation.

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Horace God Posts: 1,908	WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 7:53:08 GMT via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Horace on Nov 18, 2017 7:53:08 GMT I quite like forsaken, although I forget what each of the marks do for them. I would mark them nurgle to match everything else

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 9:11:06 GMT via mobile

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Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 18, 2017 9:11:06 GMT

Forsaken are great both model-wise aswell as on the tabletop.
The marks give the following:
Slaanesh - Swiftstride
Khorne - Hatred
Nurgle - Fear
Tzeentch - Magic Resistance (2)
Luckily for me my fluff supports having Slaanesh on them, allthough I would indeed have prefered MoN if it wasn't so crap.

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 9:19:55 GMT via Tapatalk Sweet_Totally likes this

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Post by Horace on Nov 18, 2017 9:19:55 GMT

Nurgle is definitely the weakest mark. I think forsaken give you great model opportunities. I was thinking of getting the old chaos champion models for mine, they all look suitably mutated.

I like your list, it isn't the same old WoC list people churn out time after time

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 9:49:21 GMT via mobile grandmasterwang likes this

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Post by knoffles on Nov 18, 2017 9:49:21 GMT

Nov 18, 2017 9:19:55 GMT Horace said:

Nurgle is definitely the weakest mark. I think forsaken give you great model opportunities. I was thinking of getting the old chaos champion models for mine, they all look suitably mutated.

I like your list, it isn't the same old WoC list people churn out time after time

Totally agree. I love beefier chariots and I think forsaken are definitely one of the most underused units in the game.
I like you using them as two smaller units. They'll act as almost super chaff but well armoured and with a solid punch too.

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Sweet_Totally Senior Member Posts: 479	WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 18, 2017 10:58:06 GMT grandmasterwang likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 18, 2017 10:58:06 GMT Yeah the Forsaken definitely packs a punch and with their speed and charge capabilities provided by MoS they are seductively devastating!
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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Nov 19, 2017 18:59:08 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by grandmasterwang on Nov 19, 2017 18:59:08 GMT

Firstly welcome to the board.

Definitely don't combine the forsaken. You'll lose the benefit of their random attacks and 2 units best take advantage of their swiftstride. Id try and use each unit in sync with one of the Nurgle Gorebeast chariots. The forsaken plus the chariot charge is quite dangerous. Possibly against the striking first elves it would be worth combining the forsaken but anyone else I'd recommend leaving the 2 units.

List is definitely got some threatening units in it.

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Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 19, 2017 23:15:10 GMT

Nov 19, 2017 18:59:08 GMT grandmasterwang said:

Firstly welcome to the board.

Definitely don't combine the forsaken. You'll lose the benefit of their random attacks and 2 units best take advantage of their swiftstride. Id try and use each unit in sync with one of the Nurgle Gorebeast chariots. The forsaken plus the chariot charge is quite dangerous. Possibly against the striking first elves it would be worth combining the forsaken but anyone else I'd recommend leaving the 2 units.

List is definitely got some threatening units in it.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm quite intrigued by your suggestion to have the Forsaken support the Gorebeast Chariots as that was the tactic I originaly used when starting out playing warhammer. However, at that time I tended to have them run a flank. Since those days I haven't had much experience with Gorebeast Chariots. As it is now I was planning on running them in the centre of my army as a two unit hammer since their charges are potentially devastating but their slow movement gave them a tendency to not keep up with the rest of the army whenever I've fielded them on the flank.

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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Dec 2, 2017 6:45:35 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by strutsagget on Dec 2, 2017 6:45:35 GMT

Regarding hellcanon I often found it sitting in a corner as it has move or fire and it has pretty slow movement. Sometimes it's great, especially if you combine it's panic test with low ld or snipe General or BSB.

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KevinC God Goblin King of New York! Posts: 2,293	WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Dec 5, 2017 2:47:42 GMT grandmasterwang likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by KevinC on Dec 5, 2017 2:47:42 GMT I like your list, but the Chaos Warriors need to be either 21 or 14...multiples of 7 - Nurgle's number...
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WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Dec 6, 2017 16:14:49 GMT

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Dec 2, 2017 6:45:35 GMT strutsagget said:

Regarding hellcanon I often found it sitting in a corner as it has move or fire and it has pretty slow movement. Sometimes it's great, especially if you combine it's panic test with low ld or snipe General or BSB.

My thinking was to use it in combination with my Sorc Lord (in the hope that he'll get Doom and Darkness) to properly demoralise my opponents key units. The fact that the Hellcannon will assert my flank is just a cherry on top. Hopefully I'll get to test the armylist before the new year.

Dec 5, 2017 2:47:42 GMT KevinC said:

I like your list, but the Chaos Warriors need to be either 21 or 14...multiples of 7 - Nurgle's number...

Allthough a neat touch it's too costly to be worth such a suboptimal configuration.

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Dec 8, 2017 21:08:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 21:08:16 GMT Why is 21 suboptimal? 7x3 is a good formation size and one I run regularly to good effect.

strutsagget God Posts: 4,212	WoC (Nurgle themed) 2500 points Dec 9, 2017 7:23:03 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by strutsagget on Dec 9, 2017 7:23:03 GMT Yeah, I like to run 7x3 against other larger bases and 6x3/4 against smaller based opponents and reforming into 5x when ranks needed.
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