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Post by sedge on Feb 27, 2021 7:57:54 GMT
Yeah, it's all just speculation, with vague mention of "rumours" and "sources" to try and give it legitimacy.
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Post by trollslayer on Feb 27, 2021 9:07:16 GMT
I also read that rumour and was a little concerned as well but as other members have said there’s little concrete information to back this rumour up. I’d personally think that if they were to go for a smaller miniature size it would of been raised sooner rather then later. While in my mind the reason for reintroducing Warhammer Fantasy was to capture those players or hobbyists who felt disfranchised with the ending of the game and to capitalise on its continuing popularity. It would then be a strange turn of events if they surprise people with a different scale i.e Warmaster out of nowhere. Though as always we wait and see.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Feb 27, 2021 10:52:30 GMT
I don't think it's likely, given they used the classic 20mm square base to advertise TOW in the first place - if they were making it in a smaller scale it's likely models wouldn't use square bases that size and would more likely use 'stands' like Warmaster or smaller squares.
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Post by DiscoQing on Feb 28, 2021 11:44:26 GMT
Designing the new units for kislev in exquisite detail, and then make it 10mm scale... Uh,i don't think so, lol.
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Post by mottdon on Mar 6, 2021 12:37:38 GMT
It's wishlisting. Nothing more. There's a core group of players who don't want to have to paint up whole new armies or pay large sums of money, so they're pushing this idea that it'll be in a different scale. They're hoping to pick up enough attention so that GW will notice and say, "Well, if THAT'S what they want...". It's all BS.
It's had a few YouTuber's support (like Geek Gaming Scenics) who merely said, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if it was in THIS scale!". Then the Flagellents in the community immediately started wailing about it, and other Plague Doctors supported it for whatever personal gain it presents them. Sites like Spikey Bits get views posting articles on it because it's the latest dumpster fire.
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Post by DiscoQing on Mar 7, 2021 1:21:43 GMT
Totally agree. GW are on a winning streak atm, to take a random punt on <19mm scale warfare would be a needless one.
Waaaaay more likely to be 32mm scale 😜
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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Mar 7, 2021 15:40:43 GMT
I agree with this. Just hopefully GW doesn't get any funny ideas about this increasing their profits (since anyone who wanted to play would have to buy completely new miniatures...)
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Post by KevinC on Mar 7, 2021 18:53:40 GMT
I agree with this. Just hopefully GW doesn't get any funny ideas about this increasing their profits (since anyone who wanted to play would have to buy completely new miniatures...) --------I don't think they are going to do this. If they made a different scale game (say 10mm or 50 mm) they may not get a large customer base for that. Just like all the old editions of WFB and 40K, most players use their model from edition to edition with many buying new models to update their armies or start new ones. I think what GW is doing is making a WFB game where your old armies will work, but I believe, at least in the initial years of release, they will focus on new armies with amazing models to motivate old players to buy new armies. For example, if they release Kislev, the Dragon Empire of Cathey, etc will stunning new miniatures. They armies will sell, especially with Total War Warhammer creating these armies along side GW. And imagine if they brought back some old collector miniature ranges?...there is a market for those. Ultimately, I believe GW came make a lot of money from a new Warhammer edition without some gimmick that disqualifies older WFB models and armies.
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Post by padre on Mar 7, 2021 19:03:16 GMT
I hope you're right, KevinC. But whatever they do I'm EEFL.
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Post by Lizards_of_Renown on Mar 7, 2021 19:17:30 GMT
I hope you're right, KevinC. But whatever they do I'm EEFL. Amen. Whatever happens, they can't take that away from us.
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Post by KevinC on Mar 7, 2021 19:50:42 GMT
I hope you're right, KevinC. But whatever they do I'm EEFL. --------Agreed Padre. If I had it my way, The Old World game would be 8th edition with a few minor tweaks. Then focus the army books on new armies like Kislev, Cathey, Fimir. Plus faction lists from established armies, for example for Empire: province-based army lists, Halflings, etc. And do a proper army book for armies that didn't get an 8th edition army book, i.e. Bretonnia, Beastmen.
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Post by strutsagget on Mar 8, 2021 6:24:13 GMT
I don’t think selling new models is an issue even if it is the same armies as before and 28 scale. Everything they make new and improved will sell.
Space Marine is their top selling model product, with the logic that you can play the old version interferes with selling it would have stop selling 20 years ago. That model have just small changes on every iteration. People want new models, we are collectors we will buy.
For instance I have 10 000p woodies but if they release a new Orion, Ariel and what ever I am pretty sure I would pick up everything unless I hated the model. One way is to release a new weapon upgrade not available before.
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Post by Tubis on Mar 22, 2021 23:30:43 GMT
I am wondering, who will be responsible for the rules for this new game? Will it be a Forge World team or GW proper?
I haven't had much experience interacting with FW rules before, until a year ago when I've started playing the new Necromunda. And let me tell you that this is not a good game. The overall ideas and themes are good and it is set up on solid foundations of the old necromunda, which I've heard is much beloved. But the actual quality of writing is terrible. There are multiple mistakes and profiles that contradict each other and large portions of the game are just left for the players to decide on how they want to interpret things. I know that Necromunda is meant to be themed and driven by a narrative, but at the same time it is pretty complicated especially when we are talking about the campaign, which is supposed to be the meat and potatoes. Without a solid rules base the experience I am getting from playing the campaign is less then great and even frustrating at times.
We have decided to play our first campaign adhering to the published materials as much as we can before we start tinkering, to understand what needs to be tinkered with. But so far in every single game we needed to house rule something as the rules are either vague or they don't provide answers for some very common scenarios.
So I've been wondering is this the case with FW games always or is Necromunda a bad apple? If this is what we should expect from Warhammer the Old World then I am definitely sticking with 8th.
Ps. A final vent of mine. How one can publish several hundred pages of rules without an index in the current day and age is beyond me. Even 7th ed of warhammer had an index. Unbelievable.
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Post by livewaaaaagh on Mar 23, 2021 13:12:59 GMT
I can't speak for Necromunda. But the new Blood Bowl 2020 is solid. Sure, there are changes, but they've been responsive and though there are, like all editions of any game, some naysayers, it's good.
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Post by Tubis on Apr 22, 2021 21:18:10 GMT
I can't speak for Necromunda. But the new Blood Bowl 2020 is solid. Sure, there are changes, but they've been responsive and though there are, like all editions of any game, some naysayers, it's good. That's good to hear. I hope the same team does the old world then and not the guys who worked on Necromunda (shudders).
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