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Post by KevinC on Nov 28, 2023 12:12:17 GMT
From what I’ve seen I feel like the entire game is moving towards a slower-paced game. Fighting, shooting, the magic I’ve seen all make it look tougher to remove units from the table than eighth edition. Of course until we see the full rule set I could very well be mistaken in the impression I have. Movement looks like it’s sped up, ie. you can get units around the board faster but, it also looks like units will generally be a lot wider on average making them more cumbersome. And that’s without speculating on people running 20-man wide units to get maximum attacks in combat. -------------So I love all the movement stuff, however one of the good things about WFB 8E was the more simplified movement (no for me, but for other players). My experience playing WFB over the years (including attending a lot of tournaments from 1995-2015) is that many players didn't understand the nuances of WFB movement and just wanted to push their units forward or to the side. Many players didn't understand how a turn actually worked or didn't want to deal with it at all. It's also the movement stuff that, in part, inspired players to ignore proper infantry for skirmishers, fast cav and flyers.
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Post by thegoat on Nov 28, 2023 12:19:28 GMT
GW's whole business model is built around releasing models at the same time as the army book to capitalize on the hype and excitement. If they make the classic models for all factions available day one, there will be very little for them to release along with the individual army books. --------Yeah but this is different. What if you are a player with no interest in Tomb Kings or Brets? You buy models from other companies? GW needs to have a range in place at launch or it doesn't make sense. You are right this is a little different scenario compared to past new edition launches of WFB or 40K. Maybe my predictions are wrong. We'll find out soon enough.
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Post by herjan1987 on Nov 28, 2023 12:26:44 GMT
Just a side note, which we might overlooked.
The thing is, that Bretonnia and tge Tomb Kings are going rolled out first. Then there is a rumor that The Empire and Greenskins going to arrive second, where does a fully complete stat sheet Dragon Ogre Shaggoth fits, which is a Warriors of Chaos unit. Would sit for more then year to release the book?
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Post by herjan1987 on Nov 28, 2023 12:32:06 GMT
--------Yeah but this is different. What if you are a player with no interest in Tomb Kings or Brets? You buy models from other companies? GW needs to have a range in place at launch or it doesn't make sense. Yeah, so much this. I dont see them that stupid not to capitalize on this. Also why would you show us Wood elves, Orcs & Goblins and Dwarfs in your articles, when you wont sell them for another 6 to 12 months.
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Post by thegoat on Nov 28, 2023 13:44:45 GMT
Just a side note, which we might overlooked. The thing is, that Bretonnia and tge Tomb Kings are going rolled out first. Then there is a rumor that The Empire and Greenskins going to arrive second, where does a fully complete stat sheet Dragon Ogre Shaggoth fits, which is a Warriors of Chaos unit. Would sit for more then year to release the book? The Dragon Ogre Shaggoth rules are from the "get you by" army lists they will release for free at launch.
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Post by KevinC on Nov 28, 2023 15:02:59 GMT
That's the other thing....are there going to be army books? Or is this more like HH with just supplements with army lists etc. ?
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Post by herjan1987 on Nov 28, 2023 15:24:01 GMT
That's the other thing....are there going to be army books? Or is this more like HH with just supplements with army lists etc. ? Well hastings said, that there going to be narrative books, so why wouldnt there be army books. You know the drill: Money for Games Workshop. Souls for the Warhammer World.
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Post by Horace on Nov 28, 2023 18:43:05 GMT
They could be bundled up in bigger publications like the LoA in Tamurkhan
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Post by KevinC on Nov 28, 2023 20:35:15 GMT
That's the other thing....are there going to be army books? Or is this more like HH with just supplements with army lists etc. ? Well hastings said, that there going to be narrative books, so why wouldnt there be army books. You know the drill: Money for Games Workshop. Souls for the Warhammer World. --------I believe it will be more like HH: large campaign books. If I had to guess, I'd bet there are no plans for army books, but if the game proves to be popular, than we may see them in the future. Also, I'm not sure GW's stance in recent times, but they use to always say that they are not a game company nor a book company - they are a miniatures company and that is how they make money.
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Post by TyrrenAzureblade on Nov 28, 2023 20:55:49 GMT
Well hastings said, that there going to be narrative books, so why wouldnt there be army books. You know the drill: Money for Games Workshop. Souls for the Warhammer World. --------I believe it will be more like HH: large campaign books. If I had to guess, I'd bet there are no plans for army books, but if the game proves to be popular, than we may see them in the future. Also, I'm not sure GW's stance in recent times, but they use to always say that they are not a game company nor a book company - they are a miniatures company and that is how they make money. Interesting, I hadn’t considered campaign books with army rules in them. That could be interesting and work well given the smaller scope, but I still think it’s in GW’s best interest to release a complete set of army books for the core factions at release since the miniatures range at release is going to be limited to two factions, and the majority of the models are reprints. A Ravening Hordes release also makes sense, but if the vast majority of this development time has been spent writing rules and not designing complete faction miniature range refreshes, it’s gonna feel a bit light on content for me. But this is an unprecedented product launch, so who the hell knows.
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Nov 28, 2023 23:53:04 GMT
-------Yeah but this is different. What if you are a player with no interest in Tomb Kings or Brets? You buy models from other companies? GW needs to have a range in place at launch or it doesn't make sense. My thinking is that they will bring back all the old prints for every army and the new things for Bretonnia and Tomb Kings at launch and then pair up releases of new models with the release of 'army books' for maximum hype.
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Post by mottdon on Nov 29, 2023 12:16:22 GMT
-------Yeah but this is different. What if you are a player with no interest in Tomb Kings or Brets? You buy models from other companies? GW needs to have a range in place at launch or it doesn't make sense. My thinking is that they will bring back all the old prints for every army and the new things for Bretonnia and Tomb Kings at launch and then pair up releases of new models with the release of 'army books' for maximum hype. This. I've been feeling like this is what we'll be seeing for quite some time. But I do believe they'll initially release a "get you by" PDF ruleset for each individual army (as well as core rules), but Brets, TKs and a Core Rules will have "official" rule books available for purchase. The others will come with later releases as they did with 8th.
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Post by herjan1987 on Nov 29, 2023 19:36:12 GMT
Just for gigles I checked the AoS forum topic about TOW they are over 2600 posts. Just so we understand this number we didnt reached 1000 post.
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Post by Luigino on Nov 29, 2023 21:21:14 GMT
Just for gigles I checked the AoS forum topic about TOW they are over 2600 posts. Just so we understand this number we didnt reached 1000 post. Link? I'm genuinely interested in what the community is saying about it
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Post by herjan1987 on Nov 29, 2023 21:45:53 GMT
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