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Post by mottdon on Jul 31, 2021 11:03:00 GMT
Ok guys, I was speaking to a certain FW exec as part of the podcast, it looks like bases for the new minis will be square but the rulings on infantry bases will maybe be a little more flexible. I was discussing how I should base my high elves and he informed me 20 or 25mm would be fine. Unsure if I mentioned it before but Cathay are getting their own army Moving forward I may be able to get a bit more info during interviews and things, is there anything u guys want to ask? Well, as per our discussion here of late, what can we expect from the starter box? Will there be a focus on various provinces of the Empire with different rules? WILL EMPIRE GET A NEW KNIGHT KIT?!?!?!?!!!!
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Post by KevinC on Jul 31, 2021 16:14:25 GMT
I believe one faction in the starter set will absolutely be humans, either Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev.
But the more I think about it, I could see it being Empire v. Empire. Meaning two different Empire factions from the War of the Three Emperors.
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Post by warlordghazak on Jul 31, 2021 16:39:45 GMT
I wonder how new models will scale up to the older models. We all now the scalecreep. But I'm looking forward to an update on fantasy.
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Post by imrillion on Jul 31, 2021 17:05:45 GMT
I wonder how new models will scale up to the older models. We all now the scalecreep. But I'm looking forward to an update on fantasy. Looks like they'll be a bigger scale, with the old infantry now being allowed to be on 25mm bases
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Post by Sweet_Totally on Jul 31, 2021 18:14:58 GMT
The more I think about it the more feasible a box of Bretonnia vs something like Orcs seem to me. The former would be an excellent nod not only to the old groggy fans as some have already pointed out but also to the fact that TOW is a return to more "historically anchored" fantasy. Meanwhile the orcs are a popular and good foe and are currently lacking in many suitable models. If nothing else I reckon the return of actual knight models (be they Empire or Bretonnia) would be greeted with a warm welcome.
As for my guess here're my current top three pics: Bretonnia vs Orcs. Kislev vs Chaos. Empire vs Empire.
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Post by DiscoQing on Jul 31, 2021 19:11:29 GMT
I reckon High elves vs skaven. End of discussion.
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Post by mottdon on Jul 31, 2021 23:55:22 GMT
I believe one faction in the starter set will absolutely be humans, either Empire, Bretonnia, Kislev. But the more I think about it, I could see it being Empire v. Empire. Meaning two different Empire factions from the War of the Three Emperors. I thought about this too, but it's kind of an, all eggs in one basket, scenario. If it focuses on the time of three emperor's, it's could work thematically, but GW will also try to reach as many of the communities interests as possible. How many times have people said, "Hey, I really want the Skaven from the 8th ed stater box. Does anyone want the HE?". There's usually one interest and the other is an introduction to something they might not have, encouraging them to buy more. Worked with me.
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Post by KevinC on Aug 1, 2021 4:55:46 GMT
I wonder how new models will scale up to the older models. We all now the scalecreep. But I'm looking forward to an update on fantasy. ------I'm no longer concerned about this since GW stated they want players to be able to use their old armies.
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Post by knoffles on Aug 1, 2021 8:36:42 GMT
I wonder if they’ll do a 3rd release of the isle of blood box? Probably the most unlikely scenario.
I could see an Empire vs Empire. Although probably also unlikely, they would have all the models (bar knights) as part of their current range and it has the advantage of giving you a very healthy army if you combined them.
I wouldn’t mind an OnG or even Bretonnian range refresh but with so little of the range currently available, I’m not sure of the viability of this at launch.
What I’d love is for any new box to be the new factions. We know that both Kislev and Cathay are on the cards so that would be two ‘new’ ranges for players to be pulled into getting (yes I know that some Kislev models were first available during 4th but only as an addon to the Empire book). I think this would all be down to if any of the range were to be released in plastic. It would also tie into TWW3.
I wonder if they might do some faction specific made to orders of the discontinued plastic kits (maybe in line with the relevant campaign book - if they go with the Horus heresy approach). That could be a very cool way of doing things and would cut down on their costs making it quite viable.
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Post by lordofskullpass on Aug 1, 2021 9:37:20 GMT
Empire vs Empire would be horribly boring, the reason Horus Heresy is so bad is because it just features good Space Marines vs bad Space Marines, and a duel Empire faction starter box would suffer from this same problem. People like variety.
Additionally I certainly wouldn’t be impressed if they rereleased Island of Blood, that would be just plain lazy. GW already did that once with Dark Vengeance (and did a similar thing with Island of Blood as an alternative starter set for AoS) and it sucks for those players who already have the set but for the prior edition.
Bretonnia vs Beastmen FTW
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Post by imrillion on Aug 1, 2021 10:07:23 GMT
My money is on chaos vs Kislev
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Post by mottdon on Aug 1, 2021 12:06:01 GMT
I'd love for it to be Kislev vs Norsemen. Big 'ole Mammoth in the set!
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Post by KevinC on Aug 1, 2021 14:08:16 GMT
Empire vs Empire would be horribly boring, the reason Horus Heresy is so bad is because it just features good Space Marines vs bad Space Marines, and a duel Empire faction starter box would suffer from this same problem. People like variety. Additionally I certainly wouldn’t be impressed if they rereleased Island of Blood, that would be just plain lazy. GW already did that once with Dark Vengeance (and did a similar thing with Island of Blood as an alternative starter set for AoS) and it sucks for those players who already have the set but for the prior edition. Bretonnia vs Beastmen FTW ----------You make a good point but two things: 1. Horus Heresy did (does?) very well. 2. I think if they did Empire v. Empire, is would be highlighting two very different armies....they would need to show a high distinction between the waring Empire factions. Also, since AOS takes the cake for high fantasy. I could see the Old World attracting historical players with different factions of humans.
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Post by KevinC on Aug 1, 2021 14:10:42 GMT
Ok guys, I was speaking to a certain FW exec as part of the podcast, it looks like bases for the new minis will be square but the rulings on infantry bases will maybe be a little more flexible. I was discussing how I should base my high elves and he informed me 20 or 25mm would be fine. Unsure if I mentioned it before but Cathay are getting their own army Moving forward I may be able to get a bit more info during interviews and things, is there anything u guys want to ask? ----------Where can we listen to this?
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Post by Golgfag on Aug 1, 2021 14:58:38 GMT
I can believe Empire rules will be split in to three armies or more, I would be stunned if they made that the starter set though, I also believe it would be a major mistake too, as in the end HH gets away with it because most people love Space Marines and they have a major much loved series of BL novels.
Sticking to my prediction that GW will play it safe with the initial starter set, updated Orcs & Common Goblins(those wolfriders for the AoS boardgame are brilliant) vs one of the human factions, in which I believe Bretonnia is the best bet as they are more familiar then Kislev plus a goodwill gesture to start the new version of WFB by updating a faction that was the most out of date army in the previous version of the game and that was culled so quickly at the start of AoS.
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