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Post by wundapantz on Feb 12, 2023 5:22:24 GMT
Hypothetical - If TOW comes out, and it's rules are perfect in all cases except your main army is now the very lowest tier do you adopt TOW as your game, or be an oldhammer hold out for 8th?
I guess, would your army's power ranking be the deciding factor in TOW?
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Post by wundapantz on Feb 12, 2023 5:28:42 GMT
for me, Orcs are my ride or die, it wouldn't matter if they sucked. I'm not sure if I will adopt TOW, that's more dependent if any of my regular opponents update, but that's independent of any Power Tier
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Post by grandmasterwang on Feb 12, 2023 7:45:03 GMT
If the rules are perfect I'd adopt it.
...I have like 10 armies so I'd be alright 😀
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Post by chronicallychaotic66 on Feb 12, 2023 10:55:57 GMT
Not voted because none of those quite capture my position.
Like GMWang I’ve got plenty of options and I’ve got lots of experience stubbornly plugging away with lower tier armies so sthe power level of say my favourite army won’t be an issue. I’d be more annoyed at specific changes or lack of to my favourite armies that invalidated some of my favourite units/models either straight out or by them being uncompetitive. E.g if minotaurs were still massively overcosted, or if chaos warriors (the unit) were as inefficient as they were in 6th/7th.
And I’m more worried about the rules in general because let’s face it they won’t be perfect. But the broader community will no doubt be all over it regardless perhaps seeing the end of eighth Ed events which are few and far between enough as it is.
Glass half empty: I still want to stick with eighth but can’t get a game at all.
Glass half full: I like the rules and there’s a thriving events scene I can dip into.
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Post by DiscoQing on Feb 12, 2023 11:04:34 GMT
Ultimately - if my local scene adopts it, I will.
I'll get enjoyment from playing with them.
I can't imagine the rules will deviate too far from what we know - especially if they're using a mish-mash of old editions and enhancing neglected rules.
This seems "optimistic", I guess lol.
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Post by thegoat on Feb 12, 2023 13:14:04 GMT
Similar to people above, I don't have just one army. So I wont get stuck playing a low tier faction. But balance between factions will certainly be one of the factors I use to evaluate WH:TOW when it comes out.
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Post by Darnok on Feb 12, 2023 14:44:25 GMT
I can only join the choir. Having a playable collection for almost every WHF army that was around during 8th, I could easily switch to whatever is "the meta leader" - if such a thing ever happens to be of importance to me. I am in this for the models and background, and have played casually only in the past. In this environment "power level" does not matter.
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Post by vulcan on Feb 12, 2023 17:06:26 GMT
I play Bretonnia, among others. Started Dark Elves in 6th. Being bottom tier is nothing new. Besides, I've got five armies pretty well done, and three more getting underway. The odds of ALL of them being bottom tier is pretty low.
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Post by marder1 on Feb 12, 2023 18:27:50 GMT
Same as with many others here. I have quite a number of armies collected and assembled over the years. I would have no problem to collect new models ( just bought 2500 pts of Kruleboyz for Age of Fantasy ).
From TOW, I only want reasonable and fun rules which should NOT only be curvefitted for competitive play as it happens right now with games under "metawatch"...
I would have no problems with certain "cinematic effects" like in 8th. End times, but the ruleset should in general remain as fair as possible without diluting the factions profiles and rules to a "balanced" mass where each faction plays more or less like all others.
Finally, I hope the TOW will not become such a bloated mess of rules, special rules, special-special rules, warscrolls and GHB every 6 months...
Difficult, I know...😉
Of course, I also hope for new and reactivated players, as it became rather difficult to find some for r&f systems here in Germany ( no matter on which of all these systems out there you look at ).
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Post by gangland on Feb 13, 2023 15:25:47 GMT
We all have armies out the wazoo. I just want a fun rank and flank fantasy game.
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Post by knoffles on Feb 13, 2023 15:55:04 GMT
A fun ruleset with an expanded player base is my main wish. One of my favourite armies to play is Beastmen and they are hardly top tier but will happily field them against anything else in 8th. Perhaps that is a testament to the ruleset.
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Post by Grimfang Gogulk on Feb 15, 2023 10:23:02 GMT
Yeah, the basic rules is the important thing. I don´t care about the rankins, I play Orcs & Goblins only, because I like them. I leave that switching for the best to kids and idiots.
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Post by gangland on Feb 24, 2023 15:13:45 GMT
Yeah, the basic rules is the important thing. I don´t care about the rankins, I play Orcs & Goblins only, because I like them. I leave that switching for the best to kids and idiots. Yeah here I am playing a shit ton of armies because I generally enjoy them all. Just play friendly beer and pretzel games with friends so our lists are usually far from optimized haha. |
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Post by Horace on Feb 26, 2023 0:21:57 GMT
I wouldn't care and would consider it a challenge. People who would only play top tier armies.. lame
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Post by hivefleetmanticore on Feb 27, 2023 1:04:37 GMT
I've never allowed tier to dictate what army I play. That may represent more my tendency to build armies according to what figures I like rather than any impressive tactical acumen. Maybe that's why I usually lose.  I have high hopes for ToW, given what a great job was done with Horus Heresy. I think that *not* being a flagship game will serve the game well and hopefully protect it from significant power creep... |
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